I really hate it when someone says "I was programming when...", but...I was programming pretty much in the dark ages. Missed punch cards, but not paper tape. First code was in Dartmouth BASIC on a PDP8 on a timeshare system using a slam/bang TTY over a 300baud modem that you actually had to stick the telephone receiver into to make the connection. As a matter of fact that is what I was doing when Bill (the antichrist) Gates and Steve Jobs were just starting to drool over the MITS Altair 8800. (I was drooling too). Played with the Comodore 64, the Atari 800, 800xl, 128xe, Amiga 500, Amiga 2000, and IBMs from the XL through to my current (out of date) PII-266. I've worked (made enough money to support myself and my family) on everything from rdos on a Data General S140 through SunOS and IRIX and now on to Linux. (And one of these days I'll actually get a degree...) Enough of the history lesson. You want to know WHO I am...