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I just want to say thank you to everyone here for all your help. I remember 15 years ago when I was doing my first install of Slackware Linux, I'd ask questions in IRC channels and be met with replies like, "Stupid question.", "RTFM", and so on. I guess my early Linux experience has always made me a bit apprehensive about asking questions. However, this community truly makes a person feel like there is no such thing as a stupid question. You've always been willing to help, and I've never been met with any snide or rude replies. This community is the #1 reason I love Perl, honestly. It's the reason I stick with it. I'm still learning, and still making a lot of mistakes, even after all these years; but I know that if I am ever stuck, or having a difficult time figuring something out on my own, someone here will kindly help me understand. For that, I truly appreciate all of you, and all of your help.
Thank you Monks for making the Perl community so awesome. And thank you all for helping me along my way as I have learned.
One of the minor annoyances (very minor, nothing to get worked up over) is the fact when there is a link in either PM chat or in a posting clicking on it has you leave the page you are on and replace that page with the referenced link.
How much trouble would it be to change the behavior of links inside of square bracket to open a new window using
Super Search finds no matches for "PublicAccess" (in titles or text) in the last two years.
Following the links to PublicAccess and then tye , this looks like it may be related to some sort of testing. So, possibly not a problem but, if it is, the issue's been raised. :-)
As one ascends the lofty heights of Monkdom, one gets more and more votes to use, and there is an incentive in using your votes as it helps to increase your own experience.
However, one does not necessarily see nodes that are worth using all your votes on, so I ask what do those of you who do have lots of votes use them on? Or do you leave a large amount of them unspent?
If any of my proposed solutions have minor errors, it's because I don't waste my genius on trivial matters. :-P
When I use perlmonks shortcuts to the perldocs it goes to the page but not down to the anchor location on the page like the full link does. The apostrophe and the percent symbol are being replaced with things like '%27' and '%25'.
After the recent heated discussion below How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?, some suggestions were made with the aim to improve how people could voice their concerns with postings here. Additionally, there was a request from TPF to clarify the relationship between Perlmonks.org and positions and statements of TPF.
I see some need to discuss the potential changes, as I do not want the actions of a few vocal voices to negatively impact the majority of the community here.
Relation to TPF
The relationship between Perlmonks.org and TPF was so far only displayed on every page as a link, but there was no description of what the relationship actually is. I would like to clarify the relationship with text in the Perlmonks FAQ like the following
Perlmonks.org is loosely related to TPF. TPF provides the
legal entity representing Perlmonks.org in the real world.
The postings on Perlmonks.org represent exclusively
the positions of their respective authors
and not the positions and opinions of TPF (nor of the
site administrators, hosting providers, or anyone else).
This should be fairly obvious to the long-time users of this site, but not everybody is aware of the history of Perlmonks.org and its relationship to TPF.
The official way to contact the Perlmonks.org administators, /msg'ing gods, will also be linked from that FAQ page. As this feature is also available to Anonymous Monk, this provides a reasonable venue to get in contact should one feel the need to do so.
Some people have voiced the idea that anonymous contribution here is detrimental to the level of discussion. The recent discussions at 1024035 have not shown a wide desire or support to enforce accounts for contributing.
Community statement
This statement should be obvious, but it seems that it bears repeating:
While the community of this site welcomes people from all walks of life, we do not welcome postings outside the scope of programming in general. The specific focus of this site lies on the Perl programming language.
We have established methods for determining whether a posting on this site does not belong here, or does belong to a special section. Please review "What is consideration?", "How do I use the power of consideration responsibly?", "Where should I post X?", and "PerlMonks Sections". Please do use the consideration feature if you feel that a posting on this site does not belong here.
If you feel in doubt as to whether a posting is within the community guidelines, please contact the administrators before posting.
We appreciate a civil tone here. The self-regulating mechanisms of this site tend to work very well, but when posting or replying to a post, you should respect the other person. Personal attacks are not welcome here. If you think you need to reply to a personal attack in public, consider sleeping over it or otherwise delaying such a missive. Also consider asking other site members to review a draft of your text as to whether it is appropriate before posting.
The following should also go into the Site FAQ:
Advice for long threads
"A discussion has been going on but somebody replies to me every time. How can I close a thread?"
If you get into a prolonged discussion with an individual on this site, please consider whether your discussion actually positively contributes to the topic. After ten or more replies, such a thread rarely brings some technical result and likely has devolved into an emotional battle. As it takes at least two participants in such a thread, consider agreeing to disagree and stop posting to that thread, no matter how good you think your cause is, and no matter how wrong you think the other side is.
Hello there. I was wondering if I could get a whole box of PerlMonks cookies when I log onto PerlMonks. I have found six different addresses through which I can get onto PerlMonks, however I need to log into each one separately.
This question is related to the perlmonk website usage.
The questions I have is when I am viewing any thread, I can see only up to 3 replies on the same as that of the thread. Any other replies beyond 3 replies, I need to open it in new tab/windows to read it. How to display the replies beyond “Re^3” on the page as that off the thread and not opening a new tab/window?
I joined this site several years ago, but mainly to absorb the wisdom of the monks and I did not contribute or vote much. As a result I remained humbly in the lower orders until about 6 or 7 months ago when I decided to put in some effort to contribute to the Prayers and Offerings, which resulted in my promotion to the exalted rank of Friar.
However, since then I seem to have lost my fiery desire to race to Sainthood, and therefore whilst I contribute occassionally, my progress to Hermit seems to have slowed.
Have you experienced the same loss of interest in your progress, and did you necessarily regard it as a bad thing? Should a Monk be competitive about wanting to be promoted?
I humbly await your thoughts on the issue.....
A Monk aims to give answers to those who have none, and to learn from those who know more.
I had some questions in the past, which were answered fast and helpfully for me. Really great. That's the reason why I take the time to answer other questions as good as I can. I want to give something back as I don't like to have outstanding dept. (Yes, yes, I'm sure I'll never pay back the whole dept of using the Perl ecosystem ;-) )
When I answer a question I'm really interested in feedback: Whether it was read or hopefully helped to solve the problem. That's the reason why I regularly write - let's call it - "Thank-you-nodes".
Now I want to hear your opinion: These nodes don't have any Perl related information. The "only" information they have is valuable to the one who was so kind to take his time helping me.
Do you feel disturbed by these "Thank-you-nodes"? Do you think pressing ++ commentless is enough?
