eval with timeout, threaded perl

erroneousBollock has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

Hello all,

I am in a group writing yet another webserver in Perl. This server uses Thread.pm (adaptive pre-threading server). This server has embedded perl pages (like a higher level PHP).

There are "Very Good Reasons" (outside the scope of a simple http daemon) for this being a threaded implementation.

My problem is that I wish to eval() the embedded perl code (yes with Safe.pm) so that said eval() will timeout (in say X seconds), printing whatever had been produced thus-far, with an appropriate timeout error message.

I first thought about alarm(), but quickly realised that signals cannot be delivered to specific threads.

I then tried reusing a pre-existing "monitor" thread in the server to kill off individual threads after a timeout period. Unfortunately, as there is no "kill thread" method or easily forseeable alternative, I had to periodically poll the "monitor" thread from each child.... which of course does not help for killing off a child who is performing some non-deterministic perl user-code.

I toyed with async(), and Time::HiRes, but thusfar have not found the "easy" way I seek. (The embedded perl code, and a timer , race to lock a per-thread scalar, the output or error is printed, the losing-thread is cleaned up).

If anyone has any suggestions, I would be supremely grateful. Either concepts or real code is fine.

PS: I am not too concerned about malicious user code crashing the server, as for applications "not audited by the administrator", the server will fork() a whole new threaded server... which will or won't die.

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Re (tilly) 1: eval with timeout, threaded perl by tilly (Archbishop) on Jan 14, 2002 at 18:40 UTC
Are your "very good reasons" good enough to justify using a threading implementation which is experimental and is known not to be thread-safe? You haven't said what you are doing, but my strong recommendation is to use an existing solution, such as Apache with mod_perl. As for your problem, the best way I can think of to solve it with threading is to split the child thread into 2. One to write back to the client, one to wait a fixed time, and if the page is still loading send a timeout message and then close the connection. (The backend work still gets done either way.) Hope and pray that you don't have a race between when the sleeper starts writing its timeout message and when the other thread chooses to finish what it is doing...	[reply]
Re: Re (tilly) 1: eval with timeout, threaded perl by erroneousBollock (Curate) on Jan 14, 2002 at 19:02 UTC
Are your "very good reasons" good enough to justify using a threading implementation which is experimental and is known not to be thread-safe? Of course ;p I am aware of the threading stability issues, including those affecting non-threaded functionality in the threaded perl interpreter. (Eventually, probably long before perl6 :) that'll become less of an issue.) Hmmmm, as to your suggestion.... not robust but a good idea. I wonder if i can pass 2 tie()'d filehandles to the client code (replacing STDIN & STDOUT), with explicit functionality to stop the close() from working, replacing it with some cond_wait() on a per-thread scalar.... hmmmm, an async() block cotaining a timer either will or wont have locked that scalar. Ewwww, it sounds just evil enough to work! Thanks I'll try :)	[reply]


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