Re^5: Any way to determine path being monitored with Win32::ChangeNotify? the mistery of inodes on windows

Thanks for your effort. I remember too that inodes simply does not exists on win. Can that number be something derived from Master File Table? i'm guessing only.
Anyway the number are consistent, more: they are consistent even for hard links, and using stat (maybe next hour inspecting stat.c ;=)..):

>touch test02.txt

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\ls.exe -il test02.txt
12666373953464529 -rw-rw-rw-  1 lt 0 0 2014-11-13 11:26 test02.txt

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\ln test02.txt link-to-test02.txt

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\ls.exe -il test02.txt link-to-test02.txt
12666373953464529 -rw-rw-rw-  2 lt 0 0 2014-11-13 11:26 link-to-test02
+.txt
12666373953464529 -rw-rw-rw-  2 lt 0 0 2014-11-13 11:26 test02.txt

>echo Perl > test02.txt

>cat test02.txt
Perl

>cat link-to-test02.txt
Perl

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\ls.exe -il test02.txt link-to-test02.txt
12666373953464529 -rw-rw-rw-  2 lt 0 7 2014-11-13 11:28 link-to-test02
+.txt
12666373953464529 -rw-rw-rw-  2 lt 0 7 2014-11-13 11:28 test02.txt

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\stat -c "%i %N"  test02.txt
12666373953464529 `test02.txt'

>C:\SCRIPTS\GnuWin32-bis\bin\stat -c "%i %N\n" link-to-test02.txt
12666373953464529 `link-to-test02.txt'
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UPDATE: they state explicitely here:
st_ino Number of the information node (the inode) for the file (UNIX-specific). On UNIX file systems, the inode describes the file date and time stamps, permissions, and content. When files are hard-linked to one another, they share the same inode. The inode, and therefore st_ino, has no meaning in the FAT, HPFS, or NTFS file systems.

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UPDATE BIS:

C:\Windows\system32>fsutil file queryfileid c:\SCRIPTS\test02.txt
ID del file: 0x002d00000016a8d1


C:\Windows\system32>fsutil file  queryfilenamebyid c:\ 0x002d00000016a
+8d1
Nome collegamento causale al file: \\?\C:\SCRIPTS\test02.txt

#0x002d00000016a8d1 hex is equal to 12666373953464529 dec (the same nu
+mber as above!!!)
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Re^6: Any way to determine path being monitored with Win32::ChangeNotify? the mistery of inodes on windows by soonix (Canon) on Nov 13, 2014 at 12:12 UTC
MSDN says about FileID of GetFileInformationByHandle: The file identifier and the volume serial number uniquely identify a file on a single computer. To determine whether two open handles represent the same file, combine the identifier and the volume serial number for each file and compare them. So, it should be possible to simulate inodes on Win32, at least for ~~systems~~compilers where `int`s are big enough and/or someone has taken care that all variables holding inodes have a suitable size.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^6: Any way to determine path being monitored with Win32::ChangeNotify? the mistery of inodes on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 13, 2014 at 15:07 UTC
(the same number as above!!!) It looks like it should be reliable then. But I think I must have the wrong source code (http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/project/gnuwin32/coreutils/5.3.0/coreutils-5.3.0-src.zip), cos I'm damned if I can find anything that looks like it uses anything other that stat? With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday' Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.	[reply]
Re^7: Any way to determine path being monitored with Win32::ChangeNotify? the mistery of inodes on windows by Discipulus (Canon) on Nov 13, 2014 at 15:29 UTC
So you inspected ls.c and stat.c found in \src\coreutils\5.3.0\coreutils-5.3.0-src\src at http://skylink.dl.sourceforge.net/project/gnuwin32/coreutils/5.3.0/coreutils-5.3.0-src.zip and you found nothing? I do not speak C, if you found nothing i can bale out! L* There are no rules, there are no thumbs.. Reinvent the wheel, then learn The Wheel; may be one day you reinvent one of THE WHEELS.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^8: Any way to determine path being monitored with Win32::ChangeNotify? the mistery of inodes on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 13, 2014 at 16:02 UTC
Those both in detail and greped every other file for a variety of possibilities, and found nothing likely. With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday' Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.	[reply]


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