in reply to The First Ten Perl Monks
Since I wrote the root node,
I was surprised to discover that nine of the first ten Perl Monks also have accounts
at everything2.com!
(only vroom is missing).
I was astonished and elated to learn that the mysterious paco
joined everything2
on Apr 29 1999 at 13:07, was last seen "never",
and, incredibly, actually created a profile:
Things that are good: Whales, really cold cheap american beer, Macintosh, The Toyota LandCrusier ...
That should silence the doubters who claim that paco is not a real person! He's real all right and, for the first time, we are privileged to learn about his likes.
As far as I'm aware, this is the only known personal information about the elusive paco.
Though he supposedly wrote one node LandCrusier (thing),
I get "Permission denied: You don't have access to that node" when I try to read it. Is this an ingenious paco prank?
And what of the (surely profound) meaning behind paco spelling it both times
as the innovative yet obscure "Land Crusier"
in preference to the pedestrian "Land Cruiser"?
The paco mystery deepens!
In other highlights:
- We get further indication that Perl Monk No. 4 dbrown is indeed Darrick Brown (photo plus reference to www.darrick.com).
- According to his everything2 profile, the mysterious Perl Monk No. 6, sgtbaker, is "a comp-sci major at hope college. i work at BSI where I work on everything sites and am commonly referred to as el mano dereche de Nate or part of manos: hands of nate". BTW, the "hands of nate" nickname is a pun on the title of one of the worst movies ever made Manos: The Hands of Fate. So it seems that nate "forgot" to mention "the hands of nate" aka sgtbaker when reminiscing about the history of the Everything Development Company. Curiously, sgtbaker predicted great things for the Sather programming language back then, which haven't come to pass, yet.
- We learn more about Perl Monk No. 9 yiango, the first "non-insider" monk. From his everything 2 profile: "Yiango, also known as Yist to the humans of the world. Self-proclaimed Unix geek boy, definately in love with Computers an Linux. More specifically I am interested in network security....". Yiango learnt Perl from the unfashionable Teach yourself perl5 in 21 days book. Still don't know if yiango was a Hope College student or not (update: not a Hope college student, just a random Linux geek from Cyprus who became famous as the first non-insider Perl monk).
- Perl Monk No. 10 cinder_bdt's everything2 profile highlights a problem with socks: "When I buy socks, I throw all my old ones out and buy 21 new pairs". Why 21? It's all in the math apparently. Update: Re: How many different varieties (color, size, etc) of socks do you have in your sock drawer? suggests he may have moved to Alaska, in which case he will need more socks to prevent frost-bitten toes.
Everything2 References
References Added Later
See Also
Updated Nov 25 2014: Minor rewording; removed some unnecessary jokes. 13-05-2021: yiango was not a Hope college student. Added See Also section.
Re^2: The First Ten Perl Monks
by LanX (Saint) on Nov 23, 2014 at 14:23 UTC
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Where I come from, we say that public figures have a limited right of privacy.
Are those first ten contributors really public figures?
Don't get me wrong I'm not accusing you of breaching privacy yet but I'm feeling unease if a forum starts to discuss RL infos of others and am wondering in which direction this investigation will continue to after you started gathering infos from different sites... :)
What about the ten highest ranking monks? Are they public figures?
E.g for years now I know about some monks which were (non simultanously) re-incarnations of the same person.
While occasionally having issues with these personas I never tried publicly to link them together, b/c it was their/his decission to not reveal informations.
Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
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Yeah, Privacy in general, and Internet Privacy in particular, are enormously complex topics.
In writing this node, I felt torn between privacy concerns and reporting interesting historical facts.
I suspect this is a common problem for historians and amateur family history researchers.
The Dot-com bubble era
in which Perl Monks formed is of interest to me, as are the
individuals who made it happen.
I'm amazed at how many influential players in this era came
from Hope College Holland Michigan.
As pvaldes pointed out, you could make a movie or write a book about this!
I view the creation of Slashdot, the Everything Engine, and the Everything2 and PerlMonks
web sites as significant accomplishments, significant enough to be of historical interest.
Since I don't know any of the early players I can't be certain of course, but I
hope they are proud of their historic role and accordingly would not mind being identified.
See also:
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Re^2: The First Ten Perl Monks
by ww (Archbishop) on Nov 26, 2014 at 17:12 UTC
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FWIW ... where 'nothing' may be a valid value.
A SOPW today (26 Nov 14, US EST) included a use info; which made me curious ...and which seems to lead to an ID on paco
perldoc info
NAME
perlinfo - a command-line frontend to HTML::Perlinfo
# [irrelevant details -- for the purposes of this post -- edite
+d out]
EXAMPLES
perlinfo -i
'Saved file perlinfo.html'
perlinfo -i /home/paco/www/perl-info.html
'Saved file /home/paco/www/perl-info.html'
COPYRIGHT
Copyright (c) 2009 by Mike Accardo
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Juvenal, Satires
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That's a very cool idea. Good work! I'm not sure this is much positive evidence, though: of ACCARDO's modules currently on CPAN, none date to earlier than 2003; it's possible (I'd say likely) that Accardo was influenced by perlmonks' paco, rather than the other way around. Also note that "paco" would be an unusual nickname for a Michael; it's usually a nickname for Pablo or Pasquale, I think, as well as Francisco -- or so they say. Not that that proves Accardo didn't adopt this username, of course...
I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies .
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Also note that "paco" would be an unusual nickname for a Michael;
it's usually a nickname for Pablo or Pasquale, I think, as well as Francisco
Or perhaps "paco" is simply an abbreviation formed from the
first two letters of a Christian name and a surname,
for example, Paul Cohen ...
which just happens to be the full name of
SourceForge user paco!
The SourceForge paco (Paul Cohen) appears to be an Eiffel programmer living in Sweden.
So, perhaps paco is skiing to work as we discuss Him, listening to Abba on His headphones!
A more likely alternative may be wikipedia user Paco,
who seems to be a phenomenally versatile computer wizard, based on his profile.
So, instead of skiing in Sweden, perhaps paco is
sunning Himself on the banks of the Rio Grande, Mexico,
just south of El Paso, Texas.
Update: Given all the references to Hope College in this thread, and our fervent hope that paco will return, perhaps He is London-based software security expert paco hope,
author of O'Reilly book Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD Security
who once griped about Perl documentation and is referenced at PM
in Perl Newbie and pacohope.
Update: As a chess fan, today I noticed a
new chess article A chat with Paco featuring Spain's top chess player
Francisco ("Paco") Vallejo Pons.
Maybe paco is this Spanish grandmaster, leaving an ingenious
clue to his true identity by staying at Perl Monks for exactly
64 minutes - corresponding to the 64 squares on a chessboard.
See also: Re: poll ideas quest 2016
paco will return!
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of ACCARDO's modules currently on CPAN, none date to earlier than 2003;
it's possible (I'd say likely) that Accardo was influenced by perlmonks' paco
Though I'm puzzled as to why
CPAN author ACCARDO
was suspected of being influenced by our revered paco back then,
I see today that ACCARDO has a link to Perl Monks user jacques!
... and super-searching for "paco" in all nodes written by jacques turned up three polls with paco options!
That does seem rather a lot. The paco mystery continues...
Update: Right after posting, I noticed perlinfo -i /home/paco in Re^2: The First Ten Perl Monks,
which explains why CPAN author ACCARDO was suspected of being paco in the first place.
See also: Re: The First Ten Perl Monks (paco References)
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Finally we'll learn what happend to the Lindbergh baby!
Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
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Woot! Are you suggesting that the Lindberg baby grew up to be paco?
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