New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads

ok so we have a new feature: usergroup-private discussion threads. I've been thinking we should have this for quite a long time. Currently we use wikis for intra-group discussion, and it's really very sub-ideal. (I first floated this idea in Create new [pmdev]-only section "Pmdev Discussion". That was much more generic and open-ended, but this solution meets the immediate need.)

If you're a member of any cabal groups, try going to one of your group pages (janitors, pmdev, etc.) and see what's at the bottom.

If you're in pmdev, you can see a technical description of the implementation by visiting the new nodetype usergroupnote; scroll to the bottom to the documentation.

Question: Is this a good feature? Should we publish it, or roll back the change? TIA for your thoughts.

I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

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Re: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Discipulus (Canon) on Jun 03, 2019 at 19:08 UTC
Thanks for your work jdporter, for sure is a good thing, not to roll back. It would be possible to message all members when something is added, ie not only when a reply is to one of your post? L* PS I tried to reply to the janitors thread and I got `Tough beans.` is still an experiment? POST POST SCRIPTUM No chance.. if both I click on `Comment on..` or on `Reply` to yuor first message in the janitors aka Re: janitors I can preview the page but on submit I receive permission denied `Tough beans.` message. L* PPPS 5th June '19 Finally it works, thanks! There are no rules, there are no thumbs.. Reinvent the wheel, then learn The Wheel; may be one day you reinvent one of THE WHEELS.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jun 03, 2019 at 20:16 UTC
Try again. And if it fails, tell me exactly where.	[reply]
Re^3: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Arunbear (Prior) on Jun 04, 2019 at 12:44 UTC
It fails ("permission denied") for me too, after Preview -> Create.	[reply]
Re^4: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jun 04, 2019 at 16:06 UTC
Re^5: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Arunbear (Prior) on Jun 05, 2019 at 09:11 UTC
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Re: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by footpad (Abbot) on Jun 03, 2019 at 20:43 UTC
Interesting change. I wonder if it'll become unworkable or, like the corresponding wiki pages, replies will become a record of change. (Should group replies be listed in descending order, rather than the usual?) Minor nit: As of this writing, replies to group pages have voting buttons, but there's no Vote button on the group page to actually cast votes. --f	[reply]
Re^2: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jun 03, 2019 at 20:59 UTC
Ok, thanks. These are the kinds of little things that would be perfect projects for novice pmdevs trying to cut their teeth. :-D	[reply]
Re: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Arunbear (Prior) on Jun 04, 2019 at 12:52 UTC
This is a great idea, a definite improvement on the wikis, but needs some more work e.g. A custom displaytype, so we can go directly to the threads Newer replies should be shown first (or some easy way for us to know that there is new content) Some kind of rotation mechanism Having actual sections would fix these issues, but is no doubt harder to implement.	[reply]
Re^2: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jun 04, 2019 at 17:58 UTC
A custom displaytype, so we can go directly to the threads Some kind of rotation mechanism Could you elaborate on these idea? I'm not really sure what you mean. Newer replies should be shown first (or some easy way for us to know that there is new content) I've put in a patch to order replies by date (newest first). Let me know if it doesn't seem to be working as expected. I'd also like to set up some kind of notification of new posts (as I mentioned in usergroupnote devdoclet). Update: I have made it so that when someone posts a direct reply to a group — which is essentially a top-level post under a group — it sends a message to all members of the group, something like this: There is a new comment on pmdev by jdporter... Thank you! I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.	[reply]
Re^3: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Arunbear (Prior) on Jun 05, 2019 at 10:10 UTC
A custom displaytype allows the page to support different views, e.g. for a poll, `displaytype=vote` takes you to the voting form. I think we'd want someting like that so we can see the usergroup threads directly (to keep the page less "busy"). A rotation/paging mechanism would ensure there are only N threads displayed at any time, however given how low participation is right now, this may not actually be a problem.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^4: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jun 05, 2019 at 13:06 UTC
Re^5: New Feature: Usergroup-Private Discussion Threads by Arunbear (Prior) on Jun 05, 2019 at 14:59 UTC


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