Re: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff

I don't currently have the capacity to read everything. I just have one question...

Why is it called Perl 7?

Doesn't that seem outright ridiculous considering the fiasco of Perl 6?

Perhaps I missed those discussions (I admit, I've been away for a bit).

Seriously though. Doesn't anyone have any insight or forethought?

I would like the new language be called 'FLOP'. "Fucking Language of Practicality".

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Re^2: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff by dsheroh (Monsignor) on Sep 28, 2020 at 08:20 UTC
Why is it called Perl 7? Short version is "so that we can change the defaults". Turn on strict and warnings and enable `say` and so on without requiring a bunch of boilerplate `use` statements to enable everything that's been developed in the last decade. I think a lot of it is also marketing-driven, to indicate that "this is the latest Perl" and avoid managers saying "Why are you using Perl 5, when there's a Perl 6 out there?", but changing the defaults is the stated official purpose of Perl 7. Doesn't that seem outright ridiculous considering the fiasco of Perl 6? Contrary to the suggestions in the root node of this discussion, Perl 7 is supposed to only be "the latest Perl 5 with different defaults" and not a Perl 6-style complete overhaul of the language.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff by Fletch (Bishop) on Sep 28, 2020 at 04:02 UTC
There's discussion on this news thread: Announcing Perl 7 The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie.	[reply]
Re^3: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff by stevieb (Canon) on Sep 28, 2020 at 04:33 UTC
I don't care anymore. I've been a Perl person since I knew what a keyboard is. All of this naming nonsense is complete bullshit. Why can't we just code for crying out loud, and discuss those issues? What happened to those days? Fucking politics. Done with it.	[reply]
Re^4: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff by jdporter (Paladin) on Sep 28, 2020 at 20:55 UTC
I don't understand what you're getting upset about. There is no "naming politics" going on here. The Raku stuff is now completely forked off, and we on the Perl train can put all that stuff out of mind. Perl 7 is simply the next major version of Perl. Perl. Just what you want. Surely you know there must be a "next major version" at some point, right? This is it. Everything's cool. (And as mentioned elsewhere, you don't have to use it. You can stay at Perl 5 if you prefer.)	[reply]
Re^4: What esteemed monks think about changes necessary/desirable in Perl 7 outside of OO staff by marto (Cardinal) on Sep 28, 2020 at 08:10 UTC
"Why can't we just code for crying out loud, and discuss those issues? What happened to those days?" Nothing happened. Nobody is stopping you from doing this, or forcing you to get involved with/care about a version number.	[reply]


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