The install doc recommends reading README-ActiveState.txt, you don't say if you've done this. It has been a long time since I had to install this with AS perl, though Strawberry worked for me without issue.

Hi marto

I have installed the Perl 5.28 which incudes Tk modules as builtin module from below URL. https://platform.activestate.com/vinothree/ActivePerl-5.28/distributions

When I start using the Tk module with perl 5.28 I get below error,

Event.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got handsh
+ake key 00000008000004B0, needed 0000000000000000)
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Here is the perl version:

C:\Users\VinothG>perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 28 subversion 1) configuration
+:

  Platform:
    osname=MSWin32
    osvers=10.0.14393
    archname=MSWin32-x64-multi-thread
    uname=''
    config_args='undef'
    hint=recommended
    useposix=true
    d_sigaction=undef
    useithreads=define
    usemultiplicity=define
    use64bitint=define
    use64bitall=undef
    uselongdouble=undef
    usemymalloc=n
    default_inc_excludes_dot=define
    bincompat5005=undef
  Compiler:
    cc='undef'
    ccflags =' -s -O2 -DWIN32 -DWIN64 -DCONSERVATIVE -DPERL_TEXTMODE_S
+CRIPTS -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SY
+S -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -mms-bitfields'
    optimize='-s -O2'
    cppflags='-DWIN32'
    ccversion=''
    gccversion='4.6.3'
    gccosandvers=''
    intsize=4
    longsize=4
    ptrsize=8
    doublesize=8
    byteorder=12345678
    doublekind=3
    d_longlong=define
    longlongsize=8
    d_longdbl=define
    longdblsize=16
    longdblkind=3
    ivtype='long long'
    ivsize=8
    nvtype='double'
    nvsize=8
    Off_t='long long'
    lseeksize=8
    alignbytes=8
    prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
    ld='undef'
    ldflags ='-s -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -L"C:\Perl64\lib\COR
+E" -L"C:\MinGW\x86_64-w64-mingw32\lib"'
    libpth=C:\MinGW\x86_64-w64-mingw32\lib
    libs=-lmoldname -lkernel32 -luser32 -lgdi32 -lwinspool -lcomdlg32 
+-ladvapi32 -lshell32 -lole32 -loleaut32 -lnetapi32 -luuid -lws2_32 -l
+mpr -lwinmm -lversion -lodbc32 -lodbccp32 -lcomctl32
    perllibs=-lmoldname -lkernel32 -luser32 -lgdi32 -lwinspool -lcomdl
+g32 -ladvapi32 -lshell32 -lole32 -loleaut32 -lnetapi32 -luuid -lws2_3
+2 -lmpr -lwinmm -lversion -lodbc32 -lodbccp32 -lcomctl32
    libc=
    so=dll
    useshrplib=true
    libperl=libperl528.a
    gnulibc_version=''
  Dynamic Linking:
    dlsrc=dl_win32.xs
    dlext=dll
    d_dlsymun=undef
    ccdlflags=' '
    cccdlflags=' '
    lddlflags='-mdll -s -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -L"C:\Perl64\
+lib\CORE" -L"C:\MinGW\x86_64-w64-mingw32\lib"'


Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
  Compile-time options:
    HAS_TIMES
    HAVE_INTERP_INTERN
    MULTIPLICITY
    PERLIO_LAYERS
    PERL_COPY_ON_WRITE
    PERL_DONT_CREATE_GVSV
    PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
    PERL_IMPLICIT_SYS
    PERL_MALLOC_WRAP
    PERL_OP_PARENT
    PERL_PRESERVE_IVUV
    USE_64_BIT_INT
    USE_ITHREADS
    USE_LARGE_FILES
    USE_LOCALE
    USE_LOCALE_COLLATE
    USE_LOCALE_CTYPE
    USE_LOCALE_NUMERIC
    USE_LOCALE_TIME
    USE_PERLIO
    USE_PERL_ATOF
    USE_SITECUSTOMIZE
  Locally applied patches:
    ActivePerl Build 0000 [25391a6d]
  Built under MSWin32
  Compiled at Oct 28 2020 18:24:51
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All is well. I learn by answering your questions...

Looks like either you're picking something up from another/old installation (check PERL5LIB and PERL_LOCAL_LIB_ROOT) or they made a mistake when building this perl for you. Nobody else can access that URL, you could consider contacting AS support, since you're using their services.

Interesting. I got an email from AS related to my custom 5.26 build with Tk:

"Please note, the Platform is in Beta. So if you have any issues with a custom runtime or can’t find a package, let us know and we can take a look!

Happy coding,
- The ActiveState Team"

If there are issues, I would take AS up on that offer!
This custom build stuff is a huge new feature for AS and I am sure that there are some hiccups. That's part of the reason that I am still at v5.24.

Update: There is some version level where AS said that installing a later version over a previous version was "safe". I don't remember when that was. I would uninstall any AS Perl versions. Then install v5.28 anew and see how that works?

I have used Active State for quite a number of years. I have never seen any problem installing Tk with the AS ppm tool. If you had a problem, it was probably because you were not using ppm (Perl Package Manager).

Active State has changed their Perl ecosystem and ppm is no longer available. There are pro's and con's vs Strawberry. I am not sure how this will work out. AS has discontinued perlapp (which made .exe files) and for me, that is of bigger concern as this app was easier to use and better than the freeware versions.

Thanks for the update on AS. My problem with it started when they replaced Tk with Tkx in PPM. Before that, I considered the GUI interface to PPM to be the greatest advantage of AS.
Bill

The idea is that you create an account on the AS site. You then create a custom build with the packages that you need. AS will build the whole Perl installation for you - takes about 35 minutes. I looked at version 5.28 and Tk is already there. So you could just download and run the v5.28 .exe or the .msi file for that build. I would recommend if you upgrade that you uninstall your 5.26 first. In theory, just running the 5.28 msi on top of your 5.26 installation should "work". However, I would play safe and uninstall 5.26 first.

I looked at the 5.26 public build and it had Tkx, but not Tk. So I forked the public project and gave that branch a new name. then I added Tk 804.034 and committed the changes. That kicked off the build process. Its running right now, AS says they will email when my .exe and .msi files are ready for my custom named branch - will appear in my account for download.

So in theory, the custom 5.26 build that AS is making for me will include Tk. I had to manually install one package that was failing in the 5.24 build (I needed a dev version). So I am not inclined right now to upgrade to 5.26 or 5.28 and have to potentially confront an old problem once again.

So I am sorry that I can not give you a completely tested answer. However, from what I can tell, this new AS build procedure is working (its still running as we speak).

In the past, there were a set of tools where I could make a config file with all the modules that I had installed on my dev system. Then I give you this config file which you then apply to your base Perl installation and in theory "bingo" you have cloned my AS setup with all the modules that I have. I found some hiccups with that idea in practice. This new procedure is designed among other things to fix those problems. Also under the AS EULA, I couldn't just make a .zip file of my Perl file structure and give it to you. However, my understanding is that for a build that is done this way, I can re-distribute the AS built .msi file.

I didn't write down all the details of how to create an account, etc. I just clicked around and fumbled through the above procedure. I think this has a lot of promise. Give it a go and tell us how it works for you. In theory, you should get a working version out of this.

Update: I guess if we are getting nitpicky about this, I haven't told you how to install Tk manually - this is an xy problem. I am telling you do to y instead of x which you asked for.
Ok, now AS finished their work, I see my Fork named: ActivePerl-5.26tk branch with a file: ActivePerl-5.26.3.0000-MSWin32-x64-79c273b9.msi. I can download that .msi or the .exe version or AS gives a Powershell command to do the installation. I don't know how to build a 32 bit version, but there is probably a way to do that if you need. PS: build took 36 minutes.

I think this has a lot of promise.

Are you saying that every time you decide to install a new module, you simply get AS to build a fresh perl distro that includes this module ?
Having to wait over half an hour every time I want to install a new module is not something that I would describe as having much promise.

Or do they just update your existing msi that's still sitting on their server, and then have you download that modified msi (which you can then install over the top) ?
That wouldn't be so bad. It's a bit more wasteful than necessary, but then what isn't wasteful, these days ;-)

Or something else ?

Cheers,
Rob

Hi Rob!

No, I am not saying that every new module installation requires a complete Perl rebuild.
I think you can still do ">cpan install XXX".

In this thread, I saw a question like: "unable to install Tk".
AS (Active State) is saying that they can build a custom version that includes
massive packages like Tk - and that this build process will work.
If you can select the package(s) in their GUI, the build will succeed, meaning that all dependencies will be resolved.

I don't think you have to do this for every package. Based upon the feedback so far, it appears that my AS 5.26 custom build with Tk DID WORK.
That was the OP's question: asked and I think answered, albeit in an xy way!

Hi Marshall

I was doing the same, instead of 5.26 I built 5.28 including Tk module, after install 5.28 and when using Tk mode I hit the handshake error, may be I can try your package, could you please share the package link, so I will download and try out?. Thanks in advance.

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All is well. I learn by answering your questions...

Ok. Here is the URL to an MSI file with Perl 5.26 that includes Tk.

I think that this is the public build (Oops)
https://camel-builds.s3.amazonaws.com/ActivePerl/MSWin32-x64/20210510T230637Z/ActivePerl-5.26.3.0000-MSWin32-x64-79c273b9.msi?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAQ5FYQM547I2EFPRW%2F20210511%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210511T001912Z&X-Amz-Expires=21600&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=887e1dba0fed96ada5f53adfa2cfa4d158cfa193b116f01f274a28c85a1e1570

https://camel-builds.s3.amazonaws.com/ActivePerl/MSWin32-x64/20210510T230637Z/ActivePerl-5.26.3.0000-MSWin32-x64-79c273b9.msi?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAQ5FYQM547I2EFPRW%2F20210511%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210511T010223Z&X-Amz-Expires=21600&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=490866de848ab299baf990b326e660b9124aa2ccd8b1ed1a6f4b0ec501ac7e2b

Uninstall any AS (Active State) builds. Reboot computer. Then run this MSI. Reboot computer.
Windows LOVES to be rebooted. When I had a sun workstation, we rebooted it once per year during Christmas holidays.
Make a .pl file:

use strict;
use warnings;
use Tk;
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That should do nothing. And if it did nothing, then Tk got loaded. Then further testing can proceed with actual Tk statements.

I seem to get different URLs from my AS account for the same download each time I do it. I'm not sure why that is. The above URL doesn't seem to be specific to my account on AS, so I think it is safe to post it.

I don't know what went wrong. But the public 5.28 build already included Tk. The 5.26 public build had Tkx but not Tk.