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Re^2: Invalid ID in reply notification

by kcott (Archbishop)
on Dec 06, 2021 at 05:56 UTC ( [id://11139422]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Invalid ID in reply notification
in thread Invalid ID in reply notification

G'day eyepopslikeamosquito,

++ Thanks for the information.

I followed your link and can see that this has been happening for a little over a month. I do recall some reaping (without prior consideration) recently, with a reason of "admin reap" or something like that.

While I'm quite happy for this to be occurring, an improved notification would have been useful (not your problem — see below).

To pmdev and/or gods:

  1. Please change the notification message. Perhaps something like: "A reply to your X post, from Y, has been reaped and purged from the system."
  2. Please update Tidings when changes are made.

— Ken

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Re^3: Invalid ID in reply notification
by LanX (Saint) on Dec 06, 2021 at 08:51 UTC
    > Please change the notification message.

    The message was created instantaneously when you got the reply.

    The included [id://node-id] is resolved whenever you read your message box.

    That's why title edits by the author are always reflected in your message box.

    Someone purged the whole node, such that the title can't be resolved anymore.

    But the related notifications are still artifacts in the system.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      G'day Rolf,

      The first part of your message explains the [no such node, ID 11139417]. Thanks for that.

      "Someone purged the whole node, such that the title can't be resolved anymore."

      Can the purge process, whether automated or manual, include a first step of sending a message that indicates that purging will occur. That would provide an explanation of why the message changed from "node title" to "no such node, ID node-id" and the subsequent disappearance of the reply. What the monk actually sees (message modification or reply disappearance) will obviously change depending on the time the message and/or thread is accessed.

      To give an idea of what I believe the series of steps were in my case (all relative to my timezone):

      1. I wrote my reply, "Re: Perl Multi Processing.", early in the morning.
      2. Probably not long after that, I logged off and started $work.
      3. At some point during the day, the AM response was posted. Had I been logged on around that time, I no doubt would have seen a "Re^2: Perl Multi Processing" title in the message; and the actual reply in the thread.
      4. Later during the day, the AM response was purged.
      5. After $work, I logged back in and saw the message with the title "no such node, ID 11139417"; and, of course, no reply to my post.

      I thought that some error may have occurred, e.g. a DB issue, and reported the (apparent) problem. If I see something similar again, I might guess this is a purging issue and just move on; however, that could mean a real error goes unreported — how would I tell the difference? In the future, others might experience exactly the same thing.

      Finally, just to be clear, I do not have a problem with purging posts from known trolls. I do have a problem with no general notification that purging was something that was to be introduced; and also that I received no specific notification that a reply to me had been purged.

      — Ken

        > Can the purge process, whether automated or manual,

        Not my call, sorry! 🤷🏻‍♂️

        The op= is called nuke and its against policy

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