Patriarch and Pope ("pappas") both derive from the Greek word for father.
AFAICS did the Latin church borrow the title from some Eastern Churches, the Coptic Patriarch is still referred to as Pope ("Al Baba").
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Compare also Patriarch of the West
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> Patriarch and Pope ("pappas") both derive from the Greek word for father.
I have to correct myself, there is some confusion regarding patriarch, the official etymology says "founder of the family" from Ancient Greek πατριά (patriá, “generation, ancestry, descent, tribe, family”)
From Middle English patriark, patriarche, from Late Latin patriarcha; later reinforced by Old French patriarche, from Byzantine Greek πατριάρχης (patriárkhēs, “the founder of the tribe/family”), from Ancient Greek πατριά (patriá, “generation, ancestry, descent, tribe, family”) + -ᾰ́ρχης (-árkhēs, “-arch”), with some senses likely influenced directly by Latin pāter (“father”) or Ancient Greek πᾰτήρ (patḗr, “father”). Compare matriarch. Surface analysis patri- + -arch.
Tho the similarities between patria and pater are certainly not accidental.
So bottom line, patriarch is less gender specific than pope.
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fyi, "pope" means "father", so...
... so there's even more gender-bias than I had noticed !!
Has it actually been ascertained that if the Vatican was to appoint a female Pope in the future that she could not be referred to as "the pope" ?
I'm guessing that the notion of a female Pope is so unthinkable to the Vatican (and its adherents), that her actual title has not yet been considered.
Cheers,
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Pope Joan was a female pope from a legend.
> subsequent popes were subjected to an examination whereby, having sat on a so-called sedia stercoraria or "dung chair" containing a hole, a cardinal had to reach up and establish that the new pope had testicles, before announcing "Duos habet et bene pendentes" ("He has two, and they dangle nicely").
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Maria Theresa of Austria was crowned "King" of Hungary
Elizabeth II is still "Duke" of Normandy
The monastery is a game where people pretend to be in a religious hierarchy.°
Do you really want to deny to women the joy to acquire the title of a pope?
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It might come as a surprise, but I never wore red during my tenure as cardinal and I never expected "lower ranks" to kiss my ring.
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