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Re: New version of Mod_perl

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Jan 29, 2015 at 23:30 UTC ( [id://1114994]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Performance comparison Apache/FastCGI/Plack vs Apache/FCGI vs Plack standalone vs Apache/mod_perl (was "New version of Mod_perl")

adamarc, I have certainly not found your assertions in post #2 to be at all correct.   (DBCS, persistence, or heavy refactoring).   Indeed, I have successfully replaced mod_perl with Plack and found the process to be both quite straightforward and more efficient and versatile on today’s typical hardware configs.   Although some sites are guilty of “voodoo mod_perl coding” in an effort to squeeze the hardware a little harder, I have found that most conversions were almost “drop-in replacement.”

Today, the biggest problem with mod_perl, IMHO, is precisely the result of how it was designed:   to embed the Perl interpreter that is running the web site, directly into the Apache service process that received the request.   Many companies do not want the web-server that is “out there on the front line” to actually be the one that’s doing the work:   they want there to be a FastCGI server somewhere else that, through a very tight firewall, VPN, etc., is actually responsible for evaluating the inputs and generating the response.   Load balancers and so-forth can distribute the workload, even distributing different requests to different FastCGI server-banks depending, say, on a portion of the URL.   The number of FastCGI providers might not equal the number of Apache processes.

FastCGI service-processes do remain persistent (until they periodically commit hari-kiri), and therefore can and usually do maintain persistent database connections.   They become what you think of as being “the service providers,” while the (continually light-weight) Apache service processes are “the front-end interface providers.”   The FastCGI servers are more-trusted; the Apache servers, not much at all.

In today’s environments of blade-servers arranged in “defense in depth,” I suggest that FastCGI / Plack is a better approach now, and I also suggest that the amount of work that you will actually incur to convert most applications is quite manageable.

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Re^2: New version of Mod_perl
by Ea (Chaplain) on Feb 04, 2015 at 08:51 UTC
    sundialsvc4, would you consider writing up your experience with replacing mod_perl with Plack sometime? I find very little in the web about the details of what needs to happen, only that it should be easy. The FAQ that stonecolddevin posted is light on the nitty-gritty, so when I come to do this exact task in a year or so, it'd be nice to have something to fall back on.

    cheers,

    Sometimes I can think of 6 impossible LDAP attributes before breakfast.

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