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Re^4: Help: Mojolicious+FastCGI+IIS

by trippledubs (Deacon)
on Feb 11, 2017 at 03:20 UTC ( [id://1181728]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Help: Mojolicious+FastCGI+IIS
in thread Help: Mojolicious+FastCGI+IIS

Sure, I can pretend to be that guy , but then wouldn't you just complain about that?

No, because I liked those links and they probably redirected my attention, preventing me from posting in the same way you did, without enough reflection.

Why do you consider what I said to be nonsense?

It is nonsense in the same way that if I asked you why are those 12 male ducks attacking that hen, and you said 'it is functioning as designed?' You could just as a-holey say, "It is not broke?" It is nonsense because it does not make sense that any programmer would design their program to go slow. Was FCGI invented to make the first page slow? Is that a rational goal?

It seems just as easy to say, "FastCGI starts up on the first page load"

In a way here, the OP is the designer and so it is not functioning as designed and your answer is wrong. If the design is to start up equally fast across every page load, then fcgi won't work and this is what the op should get out of your response (and did get, from every response except yours)

Is startup instantaneous for anything?

Lightning maybe? Wind? Does anything not function as designed? The OPS design was to know why his program started up slowly and the function of his post was to find out why.

Is startup on first request not how fastcgi is supposed to work?

It is

Did you check

No

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Re^5: Help: Mojolicious+FastCGI+IIS
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 11, 2017 at 07:48 UTC

    No, because I liked those links and they probably redirected my attention, preventing me from posting in the same way you did, without enough reflection.

    Why assume a lack of reflection?

    It is nonsense in the same way that if I asked you why are those 12 male ducks attacking that hen, and you said 'it is functioning as designed?' You could just as a-holey say, "It is not broke?"

    Sorry that analogy just doesn't fly.

    It is nonsense because it does not make sense that any programmer would design their program to go slow.

    You've never heard of programs designed to be nice? That is actually goal of things like web spiders.

    Was FCGI invented to make the first page slow? Is that a rational goal? It seems just as easy to say, "FastCGI starts up on the first page load"

    In a way here, the OP is the designer and so it is not functioning as designed and your answer is wrong.

    Is my reply an answer? And the OP is the author of FastCGI?

    If the design is to start up equally fast across every page load, then fcgi won't work and this is what the op should get out of your response (and did get, from every response except yours)

    I think you should take another read of the responses

    If as you claim fcgi won't work, then nothing will work, as all programs have to be loaded, and that takes a fixed amount of time.

    Lightning maybe? Wind? Does anything not function as designed? The OPS design was to know why his program started up slowly and the function of his post was to find out why.

    And then what happened?

    Neither the design nor the function of replies here is give the OP an answer

    Is startup on first request not how fastcgi is supposed to work?: It is Did you check: No

    Maybe you should check now?

    How can you be sure otherwise?

      Both spidering and nice are not meant to go slow or make things go slower. The whole point of nice is to make something else go faster. And scheduled less often is not the same as going slow. I can be sure that I'm right because the program in question is named FAST <-- CGI. Not slow to startup CGI or functions as designed cgi. I believe the evolution was that CGI called out to a program with every load and fast cgi did the same but kept it in memory. It is not something I use, definitely never with IIS. Mojo comes with production and development web server and if I had a speed problem with Mojo I would try to solve it first with nginx.

      I wanted to harpoon your answer and I feel gratified. So much so that I'm ready to read other threads now. I answered your first round of questions since I criticized your answer first, have the last word if you want. If you would login I could just downvote and move on. shrug

        Both spidering and nice are not meant to go slow or make things go slower. The whole point of nice is to make something else go faster. And scheduled less often is not the same as going slow. I can be sure that I'm right because the program in question is named FAST <-- CGI. Not slow to startup CGI or functions as designed cgi. I believe the evolution was that CGI called out to a program with every load and fast cgi did the same but kept it in memory. It is not something I use, definitely never with IIS. Mojo comes with production and development web server and if I had a speed problem with Mojo I would try to solve it first with nginx. I wanted to harpoon your answer and I feel gratified. So much so that I'm ready to read other threads now. I answered your first round of questions since I criticized your answer first, have the last word if you want. If you would login I could just downvote and move on. shrug

        Hehe, thats what trolls do, call a response/suggestion "an answer", and then fail to criticize using faulty logic

        $ mojo generate lite_app [exist] /foo/foo [write] /foo/foo/myapp.pl [chmod] /foo/foo/myapp.pl 744 $ perl -le"print ~~gmtime; system $^X, q[myapp.pl], q[daemon] " Sat Feb 11 20:24:52 2017 [Sat Feb 11 12:24:55 2017] [info] Listening at "http://*:3000" Server available at http://127.0.0.1:3000

        Oh no, hello world program is taking 3 seconds to start up, must be broken, need to throw another program on top

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