Thought of one more thing to add (I know, it's bad when you reply to your own reply) - you mentioned ASPs, which implies an MS network. IF I remember right, and it's been a long time, ASP's at least (can't remember if this is an MS specific thing or if it was in the ENV variables) can grab the network logon name from the incoming user - assuming your application is on an MS network, MS server, etc. ***************************************************************<br< Zed? Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.