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Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?

by jcwren (Prior)
on Jun 05, 2002 at 13:47 UTC ( #171826=poll: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Vote on this poll

Yes, my company is paying
[bar] 15/3%
Yes, I'm paying
[bar] 17/4%
Yes, other reason (please post)
[bar] 1/0%
No, my company can't afford it
[bar] 24/5%
No, my boss won't let me
[bar] 36/8%
No, I can't afford it
[bar] 226/49%
No, I don't care about YAPCs
[bar] 78/17%
No, other reason (please post)
[bar] 67/14%
464 total votes
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Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by Mr. Muskrat (Canon) on Jun 05, 2002 at 13:58 UTC
    I voted "No, my boss won't let me." However, I think it only fair to give a better reason than that.
    He won't let me for several reasons:
    1) It costs too much!
    2) It costs too much!
    3) You're not the programmer! You're the marketing guy. (Our programmer uses BBx, BTW)
    4) You're irreplaceable! (So why do I not make more $$$?)
    5) Did I mention that it costs too much?
    6) Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. Because I said so!

    Who says that programmers can't work in the Marketing Department?
    Or is that who says that Marketing people can't program?
      yup !! My boss could of affort the fee, for sure, but he ist not willing to pay the flight - did I mention ... ?
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by BooK (Curate) on Jun 05, 2002 at 15:40 UTC

    I won't, because I live in Europe, France, Paris. But I'd love to, someday.

    Anyway, I'll attend YAPC::Europe in Munich. And since my boss paid for the previous YAPC::Europe in 2000, and 2001. I only have to hope I'll have the same boss in 2002. :-)

      Likewise, cos I live in Dublin, Ireland.


      Anthony Staines

      We're going to the World Cup!!

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by cacharbe (Curate) on Jun 05, 2002 at 14:04 UTC
    No -
    1. Boss won't let me - It's too expensive
    2. Boss won't let me - "You would want how much time off?"
    3. Not in my personal budget at this time
    *sigh* but I want to. I really, really do.


      So what you're saying is that your boss has no interest in developing your value to the company, much less your career.

      Give that a good, long think.

      <megaphone> Throw down the gun and tiara and come out of the float! </megaphone>

        heh. This has been a problem for over a year (budgets were severely slashed at the end of Q2 last year). Already considered and acted on, though response has been slow, and too many employers expect me to make a lateral or backward move. *bah* At least at my current place of employment there is some stability, and plenty of drama, er, humor (here, here and here).

        Anyone here want to hire me? I would like to stay in the detroit area, but could be convinced to move. I develop in C++, Perl, and VB. I _can_ do HTML, but feel it's below me and my CS degree, I have strong project management and software architectural skills, I speak average Japanese and French...What? No takers...??

        Guess I'll keep looking and toiling at my current grind.


Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by lachoy (Parson) on Jun 05, 2002 at 15:10 UTC

    One of the side-effects of YAPC not being at the same place every year and waiting for someone(s) to step forward and run the show is that it's not scheduled as far in advance as other conferences. Unfortunately, this opens the door for overlaps which is what happened in my case, so I'll have to break my continuous string of appearances this year. Doh!

    M-x auto-bs-mode

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by mt2k (Hermit) on Jun 06, 2002 at 00:25 UTC
    Well, let's see... I am Canadian, so right there that states that more money is required... Here would be my costs (in Canadian $$):
    1. Round-trip airfare: $597.82
    2. Cost for the actual conference: $130.16
    3. Cost for single dorm room: $76.56
    Now, this is only for the basics! This does not include money for food, spending money, etc. What is the grand total? $804.54. Okay, not TOO bad, but throw food and extras on there and I would need at least $1000. I have in the bank... $280. Maybe my boss would let me have an advanced paycheck... Considering the simple fact that I work at McDonald's, I will say that is not likely!

    So I suppose my answer is "No, I cannot attend because I do not have a car and I am too poor at the moment".

    (P.S.: I could maybe find cheaper air fares. This is just a quick check I did on Yahoo! Travel)

Anyone need housing?
by Fastolfe (Vicar) on Jun 10, 2002 at 22:21 UTC
    I live a block from Washington University here in town and would be willing to put up one or two people for the conference (no charge). E-mail me if you're interested (guy or girl; my roommate is a girl). Some older pictures of the place are available.

    I have DSL, wireless LAN, billiards, xbox and HDTV. Please no l33t hax0rZ.

      damn, i would kill to have the money for airfare, especially with Fastolfe's offer, but i am unfortunately unemployed right now, and st.louis is a little ways from houston, so i dont get to go
      :( ......maybe next time
        It's only about a 15-hour drive from Houston. I've made the trip a few times from San Antonio (where I used to live). It's a solid day, but it's do-able. :)
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by Beatnik (Parson) on Jun 05, 2002 at 18:33 UTC
    No boss but still no money... besides the fact that it's in the middle of finals :(
    I will be going to Munich tho, meet BooK, virtualsue and a bunch of other monks again...

    ... Quidquid perl dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by dws (Chancellor) on Jun 06, 2002 at 02:07 UTC
    This poll needs a "Dunno Yet" option.

    I don't know yet. Probably not. I'm self funded for the time being, and can afford one, or maybe two conferences this year. And there are a couple of good ones to choose from. At the moment, the O'Reilly Open Source conference is higher on the list, and it's likely to exhaust my budget.

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by tjh (Curate) on Jun 06, 2002 at 19:49 UTC
    At this moment only 7% of the answers are some form of "Yes". Not that monks represent a huge proportion of the conference's public, or that even this poll has any statistical significance really, but...

    Sure looks like a great excuse to lobby them to live stream the thing for us! All tracks, all talks, real time. Not only would it be a First, but it'd be more affordable, possibly interactive, and more.

    Imagine if a company sent one person, then four others back at the office watched the tracks they were interested in, and used the person on site to pick up books, get autographs, etc. :)

    And, wouldn't exhibitors like it if we could interact with booth staff?

    'course, that's all just a pipe dream...

      I'm thinking of trying to capture the conference via my dinky intel cam and vaio sr7k. I'll have to play with it some to get a feel for how much space I'll need. I'm leaning towards a slideshow with sound kind of idea. Maybe grab so many frames per minute or hour. Of course, it might not be nice copyright-wise to record it and make it available on the web. I suppose I could always ask. Let you know if it works out or not.
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by turnstep (Parson) on Jun 05, 2002 at 17:24 UTC
    Probably not, barring any sudden employment offers around the St. Louis area. Of course, Montreal will be hard to top - I hope it returns to Canada someday....
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by agentv (Friar) on Jun 05, 2002 at 15:54 UTC
    ...cannot attend due to calendar conflicts.

    (Perhaps that indispensible answer would approximate this too.)


Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by virtualsue (Vicar) on Jun 05, 2002 at 16:38 UTC
    No, I'm not going this year as I don't plan to be stateside until August. Happily, I am going to attend YAPC::Europe again this year, so I don't mind too much.
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by Popcorn Dave (Abbot) on Jun 05, 2002 at 20:12 UTC
    I'd love to attend, and if it were in California, I'd call in sick from work, but summers are our busy season and trying to get away for a few days is nigh impossible.

    Besides, I need those couple of days to head to Vegas in August. : )

    Some people fall from grace. I prefer a running start...

Just Another European
by htoug (Deacon) on Jun 06, 2002 at 07:18 UTC
    There should have been a No, but I will attend YAPC::Europe button somewhere among the choices.

    I certainly will go to YAPC::E 2002, and yes: my boss is paying for it.

    I am looking forward to meet a number of PerlMonks again.

      I live in Europe, but I asked jcwren if he'd post the poll. Why? There have been polls in the past about attending a conference, so I didn't think it was out of place. More importantly, Y'A'N is less than a month away, and I wondered who else would be there (for a possible BOF session and whatnot). It's certainly not a slight on Y'E--last year vroom was kind enough to run Y'E banner ads--it just doesn't make sense to ask questions about Y'E until Septemberish.

      But the poll wasn't about YAPC::Europe, the poll was "Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002". As such, I felt an option "No, but I will attend YAPC::Europe" wouldn't have made much sense.

      Or should I have also added an option "And peanut butter is better crunchy?", since that has about as much relevance?


      e-mail jcwren

        Ummmm....CRUNCHY PB ROCKS!!!!

        Sean Shrum

        I think YAPC Europe *is* relevant though (to my decision at least). Given limited finances I can only make it to one YAPC, so Europe (being nearer) it is. If there wasn't a European one, I'd probably go to the American one.

        Relevant, no :-) ?



Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by MrCromeDome (Deacon) on Jun 07, 2002 at 04:13 UTC
    I would love to attend, but I don't think my fiancee/soon-to-be-wife would let me take time away from the honeymoon to attend (sorry, all ;)

    YAPC. . . Marital bliss. . .
    YAPC. . . Marital bliss. . .
    YAPC. . . Marital bliss. . .

    Hmm ;)

    Have fun, everyone, and hope to perhaps make it next time :)

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by zakzebrowski (Curate) on Jun 05, 2002 at 18:15 UTC
    I inadvertnly scheduled my vacation for the week of YPAC when air fares were low, and now I can't change the plans...

    "There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism" ~ Theodore Roosevelt (1915)
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by Jazz (Curate) on Jun 09, 2002 at 23:58 UTC

    Where's the "Not sure" option?

    Pricing, at least for this one, is not a consideration because it's so close to home in comparison to yapc's usual venues.

    I voted "Yes, my company is paying", but I'm not still 100% certain at this point.

    In addition to a new employee to train, a fair 4-5 hour drive (or a surprising $275 for a 30 minute flight), my stepson's birthday, and then murmurs that I'd better not be out of town for my birthday, well, I'm just not sure yet.


Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by cybear (Monk) on Jun 10, 2002 at 10:43 UTC
    I will not be attending.

    Partly because I'm not sure what I will not be attending.

    Secondly, despite being the best Perl programmer that this group has, I'm not OFFICIALLY a programmer, and so would not be able to get approval anyway.

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by strat (Canon) on Jun 12, 2002 at 11:34 UTC
    I voted "No, other reason (please post)", because I'm in Europe/Germany/Frankfurt, and North America is too far from here for just a short trip.

    But I'll attend YAPC in Munich/Germany/Europe in September.

    Best regards,
    perl -e "s>>*F>e=>y)\*martinF)stronat)=>print,print v8."

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by marvell (Pilgrim) on Jun 06, 2002 at 09:26 UTC
    I voted "no, I can't afford it" as I'm in the UK and the plane and hotel costs would be too much.

    Steve Marvell

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by adamsj (Hermit) on Jun 09, 2002 at 03:47 UTC
    I'm getting married June 29--reason enough?

    I wish I could be there, though--the orignal plan was to get married the next weekend, but things change.


    They laughed at Joan of Arc, but she went right ahead and built it. --Gracie Allen

      Get married *at* YAPC. Or am I the only one sick enough to think of that?

      Wait, don't start the rumors. I'm not actually doing it. It's just an idea . . . meet at YAPC, marry at YAPC.

Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by Nomis52 (Friar) on Jun 08, 2002 at 11:09 UTC
    No, because North America is a very long way from Perth, Australia, and besides I'm a poor uni student :(
Re: Do you plan to attend YAPC::America::North 2002?
by sth (Priest) on Jun 11, 2002 at 18:49 UTC

    Not enough days in the summer!!!

    I would love to attend. I live in the Chicago

    area and could drive down there I just don't have

    the time to attend. :-(

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