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in reply to Chip (on the shoulder) Monks
As with all new communities, there are waves that come in and out. It seems right now we are riding a bad wave, where the good and bad monks in this monastery are being slowly devided. I feel that I have made many new friends here and at #perlmonks, and I enjoy coming back to this site not only because of the perl content, but because of the (net) friends that I have made over the past 6 months.
I suppose it is only natural that we will hurt each other in the process of getting to know one another better. But civilized people learn from their mistakes, and forgive others that might have offended them. This is where I think the biggest devisor comes in: those that aren't interested in cultivating good relations with the others and are interested 100% in perl, and those that have come to care more about the people behind Perl Monks than the content of the site itself. To put it simple: those who care and those who don't care.
We have all built a community here, with all of the pros-and-cons that growing societies bring with them. I see it as a period of adjustment, and hopefuly perlmonks will come out of its growing pains to be a great place to talk about perl, learn, teach, and have lots of fun.
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RE: Chip Monks and Trout Monks
by toadi (Chaplain) on Jul 04, 2000 at 14:23 UTC
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I started programming perl and looked for good sites with documention on it.
I discoverd 4 Sites:
Perlmonks is in the first place somewhere I post when I don't really understand the documention of modules.
But The more I spend on PM the more I feel involved with the community. But with the growth of a community there are more people coming to PM with different opinions. And sometimes people with bad intentions.
IMHO the solution to weed out people with bad intention is(not sure how you say that in english) social control. It means that when somebody is offended you speak up and stand up for the person - immediatly -!!! And making sure it doesn't escalate to immens proportions of flamming eachother.
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My opinions may have changed,
but not the fact that I am right
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You have an excellent point; the world would be a much better place if we defended each other from insults, slights, and discrimination.
There are times, however, when coming to another's defense will not do any good, and may very well do more damage than simply leaving it alone. One person making insulting comments is an annoyance. A dozen people loudly shouting back and forth about someone else is far, far worse.
I'm not saying you should ignore other users making insulting or degrading comments. But make sure your defense is welcomed before you make it. Give the offended party a chance to handle it their own way. It's better to quietly offer support, and make a vocal defense only when you are sure it will be appreciated, than it is to speak out of turn and possibly make a situation you know nothing about even worse.
- Ozymandias
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