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Re: Re: Re: The Black Art of Perl Programming?

by amarceluk (Beadle)
on Nov 19, 2002 at 20:21 UTC ( [id://214244]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: The Black Art of Perl Programming?
in thread The Black Art of Perl Programming?

Yes, file management is boring. Sometimes data manipulation can be boring, too. Maybe I am a fan of the wrong language? But there's more to Perl than those 2 things.

There are, and I wouldn't call myself a representative of People Who Use Perl. Clearly there's more to it than my (boring) job requires. But I suspect the core Perl users are people with, if not boring, at least un-sexy jobs; they use Perl because it gets those jobs done. An awful lot of programming is data and file management. Cool things can be done with Perl, but, alas, many people don't have cool jobs.

You are missing my point. Why just mention CGI? How about having a book that deals with Perl CGI scripts that are geared toward e-commerce situations? Think about it: the author can discuss security with Perl (e.g., taint mode and different modules, etc) and then move on to other issues in e-commerce. But if I had a choice, I wouldn't mention CGI at all. I would discuss mod_perl, Apache, and maybe something else.

Yes, the more descriptive a book's title is, the better; but on the other hand, if it's too long it just gets ridiculous. You also seem to want very specific books to exist, rather than more all-encompassing books that cover the fundamentals; I guess "Perl for e-Commerce" would be useful on some level, but then, a good basic book about CGI programming could teach you what you need to know to do e-commerce yourself, and you wouldn't have shelled out another thirty-five dollars on another book.

Reading my posts, I get the impression that I am coming across as somewhat of a troll. I don't want to give that impression. I started this thread because it just seems to me that the Perl books out there are so bland. I care about Perl's image.

With all due respect, you might be perceived as less trollish if you didn't post anonymously.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Black Art of Perl Programming?
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 19, 2002 at 22:07 UTC
    You also seem to want very specific books to exist, rather than more all-encompassing books that cover the fundamentals

    Yes, it seems that Perl books cover a lot fundamentals, which is a good thing, but I would also like to see books aimed at more specific areas. Perl works extremely well with databases, but how many books on Perl and databases are out there? Probably less than 10 (but most of the time you will only find 1 or 2 at a bookstore). On the other hand, a simple search on Amazon shows that there are close 80 books dealing with Java and databases alone. Yes, 80

    Quite frankly, I am surprised by these numbers, which give me the feeling that it is difficult to get a Perl book published right now (okay, at least, harder than trying to get a Java book to print). What are the implications of these numbers? They are not good for Perl. I wish I had a solution. I guess I would like to walk into one of these bookstores and see bookshelves stockpiled with Perl books on all sorts of subjects and the magazine stand filled with TPJ, but that ain't happening any time soon.

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