It's official: Java sucks

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Re: It's official: Java sucks by JPaul (Hermit) on Feb 14, 2003 at 03:38 UTC
It has been noted that this leaked memo is some two years old, and as such probably shouldn't be bought into too much. Not that I'm a proponent of Java, I've never liked the language - but if you're going to tell people the story, you might as well give them the whole picture. Story on CNet JP, -- Alexander Widdlemouse undid his bellybutton and his bum dropped off --	[reply]
Re: It's official: Java sucks by jasonk (Parson) on Feb 14, 2003 at 03:35 UTC
Old news, Sun already has an announcement out that says the memo is real, that it's more than two years old, and that all the issues mentioned in it have been addressed. Of course, none of that means that java doesn't suck :)	[reply]
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Re: It's official: Java sucks by Anonymous Monk on Feb 14, 2003 at 08:58 UTC
Java is not that bad. There are a lot of languages out there that are worse. Visual Basic, Visual C++ & MFC, PL/SQL, C# and that whole .NET thing. This may make for a good poll what do you think?	[reply]
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Re: It's official: Java sucks by hardburn (Abbot) on Feb 14, 2003 at 15:07 UTC
Kaffe might be small, but it sure has a lot of other problems. I've been hanging around the Freenet Project (external link) mailing lists for a few years, and I can tell you that there is no end to the frustration that Kaffe has caused the Freenet developers. Between not having a complete Java 2 API implementation and a buggy java.math.BigInteger class, many developers just gave up on Kaffe. Which is sad, because Kaffe is the only viable Free Software VM. I think the 9MB "Hello, world!" is a bit exagerated. Unless you're learning the language, nobody is (or rather, should) use Java for small programs. That "support infrastructure" (i.e., garbage collection, VM interpreter, etc.) will stay pretty much the same no matter how big your program gets. If I'm building a castle, I'd much rather use Java then Perl. If I'm building a hut, I never want to see a line of Java code. Perl can make some impressive huts (: ---- Invent a rounder wheel.	[reply]
Re: It's official: Java sucks by simon.proctor (Vicar) on Feb 14, 2003 at 11:42 UTC
At best this would be a Meditation however, thats at best.	[reply]
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