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Re: Re: SQL JOINs vs WHERE statements

by bean (Monk)
on Aug 19, 2003 at 19:00 UTC ( [id://284989]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: SQL JOINs vs WHERE statements
in thread SQL JOINs vs WHERE statements

Actually, in Oracle I get the second set of results (no matter what order I put the where clauses). What database did you use, EdwardG?
Update
BTW, it's bad form not to name the columns in an insert. Instead of
insert into people values (1,'Smith')
you should do
insert into people ( person_id, surname ) values ( 1,'Smith' )

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Re: Re: Re: SQL JOINs vs WHERE statements
by EdwardG (Vicar) on Aug 19, 2003 at 19:28 UTC
    I agree about the named columns, normally insist on them when reviewing, but that piece of code wasn't the pertinent part of the demonstration, just the setup. Thanks though.

    Oh, and I used MS SQL Server to test that code. Looks like there's also a portability issue :)

      I figured you knew about naming columns when inserting, I just wanted it in the record for any SQL newbies out there.

      I guess to be completely clear and sure of your results, you'd have to do the following to be equivalent to the left outer join version (in MS SQL Server at least):
      SELECT pt.surname, pt.town FROM ( select people.surname, town.town from people, town where people.person_id = town.person_id (+) ) pt WHERE pt.town <> 'Washington' AND pt.town IS NOT NULL
      I just realized that although you've requested a left outer join, what you get is the same as an inner join because all of the columns in your example match up. You need to add a person who isn't in the town table at all:
      insert into people ( person_id, surname ) values ( 5, 'Drifter' )
      What really surprised me was that you got Jones in the results - it seems like MS SQL Server did this:
      SELECT people.surname, t1.town FROM ( select * from town where town <> 'Washington' AND town IS NOT NULL ) t1, people WHERE people.person_id = t1.person_id (+)
      Essentially, it pared down the town table before joining - probably good for performance, although it gives strange results. Interesting - you learn something new every day here at sqlMonks. What? This is perlMonks?
      Update
      That part about it not being an inner join instead of a left outer join? Forget about it - it is a left outer join because of MS SQL Server's apparent order of operations (see my last SQL snippet above).

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