in reply to Re: Sainthood via Seniority Simulation in thread Sainthood via Seniority Simulation
And if you do show up every day, and vote intelligently, you deserve to be a saint.
Of course, the person who casts all his N votes on the first
N posts he encounters (and casts all of them --) gets
rewarded as much as casting them by any other strategy.
Perlmonks rewards voting, and it doesn't discriminate
between an "intelligent" vote and a "vote to get XP".
Voters are important, or so they told me at my polling place in Brooklyn this morning.
But any democracy who doesn't want to be become the laughing
stock of the world doesn't hand out goodies in the voting
boots.
Abigail
Re: Re: Sainthood via Seniority Simulation
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Nov 05, 2003 at 11:02 UTC
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Interestingly, quite a number of countries have compulsary voting. According to this list, at least 15 countries have a fine for not voting, and in 3, you can actualy be imprisioned for it. This seems tantamount to handing out goodies in the voting booths.
As to your first point, there's little way to tell the difference between somebody voting randomly and somebody voting intelegently. I'm told that there are some statistical analisies performed to catch potential votebots, however I can't discuss the details (because I don't know them).
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Well, the server on the business end of that link seems
to be operating in full stealth mode at the moment, but
the basic problem with mandatory voting is that a certain
percentage of people don't give a rat's hind end and
*you* *can't* *make* *them* care*.
Consequently, since they
won't ever take the trouble to vote intelligently
(even for the lowest definitions of intelligence), any
vote you force them to cast is random and so tends to
favor the worse or less popular option. This wouldn't
be a big deal if it were .05% of the population, but
it tends to be somewhat higher than that.
Don't get me wrong, voting is good. You want everyone
to know about their legal right to vote, to know what
day is election day, and to know where they have to
register (and by when) and where they have to show up
on election day to vote. That's all fine. But (to
paraphrase a certain infamous sports figure) if the
people aren't gonna come to the booth, how you gonna
stop 'em?
Bringing it back to Perlmonks... I don't think we
have that great a problem, because the people who
don't care are generally not going to spend a lot
of time visiting the site in the first place.
The XP "goodies" we're handing out for voting would
generally not be a compelling thing for people who
aren't really interested in the content of the site.
I don't see it as a big issue here.
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Re^2: Sainthood via Seniority Simulation
by chaoticset (Chaplain) on Sep 11, 2004 at 13:06 UTC
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Perlmonks rewards voting, and it doesn't discriminate between an "intelligent" vote and a "vote to get XP".
This is consistent with governments the world over.
But any democracy who doesn't want to be become the laughing stock of the world doesn't hand out goodies in the voting booths.
(Spelling error corrected for clarity)
I've always wondered why this is. I suspect that a free buffet lunch at a polling location would draw in registered voters like flies. They check your registration, you vote, you go around the buffet once or twice.
Yeah, voters shouldn't have to be enticed. Humanity shouldn't have to be policed, either, but those systems exist. Necessary evils exist, so why encourage only the most egregious ones? Why shouldn't there be tasty baked lasagna, free for the taking if you do your civic duty?
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Anyone that shows up at the polling location for the food instead of for the voting shouldn't be voting anyway. An uninformed vote is worse than no vote at all.
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Exactly how well-informed do you think most voters happen to be?
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