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RE: RE: Why do monks put up with it?

by BlaisePascal (Monk)
on Sep 07, 2000 at 22:51 UTC ( [id://31456]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to RE: Why do monks put up with it?
in thread Why do monks put up with it?

I'm glad you have that option. Not all of us do. I'm newly out of college, newly hired at a local company in a tech-poor area of the US. While I have free reign to use Perl internally (on an NT box), I know that trying to fight to be able to use Perl in the products we ship is a battle that I won't win, due to lack of political clout.

I can't afford to walk out of this job, not without the experience it'll give me, not without a clear idea of my prospects for the future. I would love to find a local, free-software based Unix or Linux shop that would hire me to hack perl, C, etc. There just aren't any around, and I feel lucky with what I have. As it is, it's a good company to work for.

My company produces software that is used for mission critical applications involving a significant amount of legally-required confidentiality and attention to privacy. It is perfectly reasonable for the customer to say "we can't trust that code" -- and reasonable for us to say "we won't certify your installation because of x, y, z", when warranted. Some of us have to work in such an environment, and live with the requirements of others who are, quite frankly, just trying to look out for their concerns as much as I am looking out for mine. Walking away because the customer doesn't trust a particular piece of technology you want to use in their mission critical app is a bit extreme. I'm glad you have that option.

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RE: RE: RE: Why do monks put up with it?
by Nooks (Monk) on Sep 08, 2000 at 04:03 UTC
    BlaisePascal wrote: I'm glad you have that option. Not all of us do. I'm newly out of college, newly hired at a local company in a tech-poor area of the US. While I have free reign to use Perl internally (on an NT box), I know that trying to fight to be able to use Perl in the products we ship is a battle that I won't win, due to lack of political clout.

    If you never stand up for yourself, and don't even try to use some of your own clout to have things done your way, you'll never have any political clout, and you never will have things done your way.

    `Just Quit' is a simplistic answer, but what it means is `that's an unrealistic imposition imposed by your employer. You'd be better served if you fought it rather than accepting it.'

    (I'm also just out of college; I've been working at a nice place for the last two years or so. Right now my work is fabulous---I enjoy myself, I do things I like, if something I don't like comes along (HTML editing or TCL work, for example) I suck it up and remind myself to milk it a little when I'm vying for a cooler project next time.

    The moment I'm required to write VB apps, or deal with C sharp or other deficient products, or sign over my code to my company or do any of a number of limits I set in my time here, I'll be giving my notice.

    Yes, you're new, you're young, you need experience. But you're also young and thus able to work long hours and probably don't have a lot of commitments. Use this time to find out what sort of work you want to do and make sure you end up doing it. If you fail to do that now and end up doing something you hate for the next twenty years you'll more than likely regret it.

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