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Re: Re: Re: perl's forte

by perrin (Chancellor)
on Mar 19, 2004 at 04:57 UTC ( [id://337888]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: perl's forte
in thread perl's forte

You really can't figure out why people would downvote your node? You basically said that you think perl is unpopular for web development and slow. No, not in so many words, but that is the implication, and of course a statement like that is going to annoy some people on a site for perl users.

If you honestly just wanted to know what people think perl is best at, why start with a bunch of negative (and untrue) comments? Why not say how much you are enjoying using perl and start from there instead?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: perl's forte
by kiat (Vicar) on Mar 19, 2004 at 05:50 UTC
    If you honestly just wanted to know what people think perl is best at, why start with a bunch of negative (and untrue) comments?
    Huh? I'm not quite sure if I had started with a bunch of negative (and untrue) comments. I read some responses at http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/03/18/2140252.shtml?tid=126&tid=169 and that set me thinking about perl's real strengths.

    I like perl for what it is and I use it for a lot of programming-related tasks. I'm amazed at how easy it is to get things done with a few lines of code. I've no reason to want to be negative about perl.

      I thought it was something like that. You really can't take comments at Slashdot as indicative of anything beyond one person's opinion. I mean, that article is about PHP, so naturally one would expect to see a lot of pro-PHP sentiment in it.

      Re-read what you posted and try to imagine how it would sound to someone who doesn't know the context of your thinking when you wrote it. It comes off sounding like "Everyone hates perl. Do you think it's good for anything?" I don't think you meant to do that, but you have to consider your tone if you really want to get good answers from people.

      The reason I said those comments were untrue is that, well, they are. Large sites (Amazon, Yahoo, TicketMaster, Morgan Stanley, etc.) are doing major things with perl. Yahoo uses PHP now as well, but they haven't stopped using perl. There are lots of PHP fan sites on the web, but that's partly because it appeals to an audience of wannabe web designers, and has no good equivalent to CPAN for putting up shared code. PHP has some serious issues with lack of namespaces, confusing function names, etc. which many beginning programmers won't even understand as problems, never having worked on a complicated project or used those features in another language.

      Java -- I assume you're referring to the guy claiming that only J2EE is fast enough to build a site like CNN? I've seen many benchmarks involving web apps and file munging where perl comes out faster than Java. Very few large sites are actually built in Java (eBay comes to mind, but that's it). I would say Java is usually chosen for political reasons, not for technical ones.

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