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Re^3: Unexpected output from fork (Win32)

by Jenda (Abbot)
on Aug 09, 2004 at 16:27 UTC ( [id://381284]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Unexpected output from fork (Win32)
in thread Unexpected output from fork (Win32)

It seems the seek point is shared, but the caches are not. Which IMHO doesn't make sense. Either the handles should be completely separate or they should share the cache.

I did not mean to share the array. The main thread would read the first tenth of the computer names into an array and fork() off a child, the child would have a copy of the array and would start processing those servers. In the meantime the main thread would empty its copy of the array, read the next tenth and spawn another child. And so forth.

Of course this means that you will have the complete list of computer names in memory, which may and may not be the best thing to do.

Jenda
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Re^4: Unexpected output from fork (Win32)
by iburrell (Chaplain) on Aug 09, 2004 at 16:46 UTC
    There is a good explanation for why the file handles are shared but the buffers are not. The buffering is done by Perl, in the IO layer, so each process gets its own memory and buffers. The low-level read is done by the OS, and it shares the file handle. There is a cache in the OS, but that doesn't have any behavior effect on the processes, other than the read being faster.
Re^4: Unexpected output from fork (Win32)
by maa (Pilgrim) on Aug 09, 2004 at 17:38 UTC

    Hi, - I've tried that approach (very similar) already but found that some of the operations would inexplicably fail after about 200 fork()s. I was doing 10 forks() at a time then waitpid()-ing them however Windows NT task manager seemed to think that the perl process was 'leaking' handles tho I couldn't track this leak down.

    The 'threads' count in task manager went up and down exactly as expected as did 'handles' for a short while, then it started to go down by less so the number of open handles started growing.

    I'm never going to need to (realistically) check logs on more than 5000 workstations at once so I could try dividing the total number by 10 and try slicing the array for each fork since I think forking too much might be one of the problems. My alternative is to try ithreads.

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