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Re: A tutorial for Perl to teach Beginners

by bart (Canon)
on Sep 06, 2004 at 09:06 UTC ( [id://388757]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to A tutorial for Perl to teach Beginners

I like the idea of somebody very new to Perl pointing out the difficult spots. Even if you don't have all the answers, just logging the questions that arise, would be a valuable resource. Us oldbies have long forgotten what is weird and hard for the people on the outside...
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Re^2: A tutorial for Perl to teach Beginners
by FoxtrotUniform (Prior) on Sep 06, 2004 at 09:11 UTC

    That's an excellent point, and one that I think a lot of people forget.

    I've just been accepted as a Ph.D. student. (Yay me. :-/) So I've had the opportuntiy of applying to teach undergrads, particularly first-year CS classes. I don't like that idea. To my mind, it's hard to teach a class when you don't know what's hard and what isn't. I've (probably) already forgotten that --- I'd rather teach a fourth-year complexity course than a first-year intro-programming course, because I can remember what's hard about complexity --- but I can't remember what's hard about learning to program; I need to re-learn all that.

    I would wholeheartedly welcome a "Perl for newbies by newbies" tutorial --- or a regular column. I've already forgotten what's difficult about using Perl's filehandles and regexes (Edit: Yeah, as if that's all), and that makes it more difficult for me to figure out what bits need more detail when I'm writing for someone who hasn't.

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      So i will post my problems that I have and I think are regular to other new users too. And if I get some answers by use saints or others I can get my project started.... But where can I post these Probs without flooding the SoPW section? A column would be a good Idea but how can you realize it here (and more it would be good that if you see postes by other new users that you coulsd postes there probs too, because like that I can see the whole range)...Any idears??

        SoPW is a perfectly good place to post problems... that's what it's there for, and don't let the fact that it gets a lot of traffic make you believe that your questions won't get answered.

        As for your column (if that's what you decide to do), I'd say post it to Meditations in small pieces, and when you get, say, five or six: post "A Tutorial for Perl to Teach Beginners, Part <n>" to Tutorials.

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Re^2: A tutorial for Perl to teach Beginners
by neilwatson (Priest) on Sep 06, 2004 at 22:18 UTC
    In the beginning I always found $_ difficult to understand. Specifically, all the operations that $_ was left out of because it was 'assumed'. Very tough for a newbie. Also, I did not discover strict and warnings until I came here. They are a pain at first but, as I went along, I learned alot by listening to what those modules had to say.

    Neil Watson
    watson-wilson.ca

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