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My home internet connection is

by vroom (His Eminence)
on Nov 08, 2000 at 22:14 UTC ( [id://40585] : poll . print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Vote on this poll

T1 or higher
[bar] 12/6%
[bar] 42/22%
Cable Modem
[bar] 46/24%
Plain old modem
[bar] 50/27%
Like sucking golfballs through a straw
[bar] 26/14%
I don't need a connection I have my own Internet
[bar] 2/1%
[bar] 7/4%
[bar] 3/2%
188 total votes
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RE: My home internet connection is
by JohnB (Scribe) on Nov 09, 2000 at 01:03 UTC
    DSL is a nightmare to get!

    I signed up for DSL and an ISP from the DSL provider web site. It finally took three months before I could get an appointment to have DSL installed.

    The techinician showed up and installed the splitter. The next step was to install the modem and program the IP addresses on my computer. He then asked me what IP addresses to use. Since I signed up for DSL and the ISP on the same web site I assumed they would provide this information.

    It took a while to to find the name of the ISP and call them to get the IP addresses. By this time the appointment was over and the technician had to leave. I ended up programming the modem and my computer and got it working the next day.

    The DSL line worked fine for several months then it stopped working for days. It took hours on hold before I could even leave a voicemail message at customer service. Finally the DSL started working again and a week after that I got a phone call to make an appointemtment to get it repaired. It was already working when they called.

    A few days later my phone stopped working. The phone company told me it would take a week to get it fixed. I couldn't wait a week so I fixed the wiring myself.

      Rule #1: DO NOT get DSL with anything non-standard. Do not call up and change anything about your DSL order prior to it being installed, and AVOID making any changes to your phone line after your DSL is installed. Most phone company employees and systems were originally meant to accomodate simple voice and data circuits. DSL is "weird" and implemented in various software in strange ways. As a result, it's very easy for a human operator to goof up your DSL, and sometimes even normal changes can result in other strangeness in your order that could cause your DSL to be disconnected or stop functioning.
        Do those comments also apply to ISDN? I know that everytime I called them for whatever reason concerning the line, it was a complete case of FUBAR... every time.

        Roy Alan

RE: My home internet connection is
by lemming (Priest) on Nov 08, 2000 at 23:24 UTC
    Though I'm being charged for DSL. My current ISP offered me DSL, came out and did a modification to my phone service, then backed out due to my location. Time to slap them around.
      Hmmm... does that ISP happen to have the fitting initials BS? I was *supposed* to have DSL as of yesterday but I didn't. When I called over a month ago to BS to order my home phone service they said I could get DSL, and I would have my install package (I would install my line filter and modem myself) on Nov 7. Well, I was all excited when I got home last night, only to find I had received nothing from BS (aside from the BS they gave me on the phone). So, I call and ask "WHAZZZUP?!?!?" only to find the sales rep was an idiot and no DSL in my area until June 2001. Although, I do see them laying cables along my road, so it may be sooner. So, as of monday I will be getting a cable modem. Or, I can just stay at work 24/7 and enjoy my OC3.


        My boss has both a regular ADSL line and a fixed service "T1ish" SDSL line. At various times BS has punched a real T1 on _HALF_ of his two wires, cut his neighborhood wires completely, punched another DSL customer on _HALF_ his wires and disconnected his home telco for 8 hours when he called about poor connect speeds on his ADSL.

        He's REAL happy with BS. Meanwhile, my BS ADSL has been trouble free for months. I did have to teach the guy how to install the software they "require" to be installed. Of course it bombed because I had a NEWER version of Netscape already loaded. Very sad.

        $you = new YOU;
        honk() if $you->love(perl)

      Ack! I'm lame. I didn't even say I was using a modem. I must get coffee.
RE: My home internet connection is
by brainpan (Monk) on Nov 09, 2000 at 08:21 UTC
    I have a cable modem through @Home, and have had good service overall, but when I do need help receive roughly the level of service I've been trained to expect from faceless nationwide corporations. However, this level of apathy doesn't necessarily swing only to their advantage, as I discovered when we had the service installed.

    After a month or so on their waiting list, a technician came out to install the modem. For those of you who have never gone through this process, this is a short overview:

    1. Technician arrives "between 1:30 and 5:30pm".

    2. Technician checks wiring. Yes, they are the same cables they installed a few months ago.

    3. Technician plugs the modem into a cable outlet, and another wire into the computer's ethernet jack.

    4. Technician hands me instructions for configuring the computer.

    5. Technician hands me the service contract. "I'll need you to sign your name on this line."

    "The account holder isn't here right now. I'm not on the account. Can I just sign my name there, or should I have them sign this and mail it to you?"

    "I'll need you to sign the account holder's name on this line."

    Thinking that maybe he just hadn't heard me, I again clarify that I am not the account holder.

    "I'll need you to sign the account holder's name on this line."

    I scribble unintelligibly on the line in question and hand him the contract. After configuring the computer everything works fine.

    And no, I don't own 27 pairs of sweatpants.
RE: My home internet connection is
by FouRPlaY (Monk) on Nov 09, 2000 at 02:26 UTC
    Cable rocks my world. Plus I get it at 50% of due to employee benifit! (not me, my sister).

    Learning Perl or Going To Die Trying
RE: My home internet connection is ADSL
by motomuse (Sexton) on Nov 09, 2000 at 06:32 UTC
    And I have to confess I'm amazed at all these DSL horror stories. I guess I was just fortunate or something. I was an early adopter when PacBell introduced it, and consequently I'm paying the same rate I ever paid for my static IP address, where later adopters have either to have a dynamic IP address or pay $50 more than I'm paying for the privilege of staticity.

    I've never had really serious problems with it -- though, truth be told, another person in my same house signed up and got the dynamic DSL and had nothing but problems. Time to set up a household firewall, and just have all the house machines go thru my DSL, I guess.

    PBI as an ISP, now, that's another fsckin story entirely. But no complaints at all about the DSL service.

    There ya go, vroom, your next poll should try to discover how many folks have their entire house ethernetted ... ;)

        - Muse

      I'm curious, what about a static IP is so attractive that some people are willing to pay extra for it? Is it so that you can run services like ftp, httpd or gaming servers? Because it's somewhat easier to set up, particularly on a non-MiSFiT OS?

      As to the question of personal LANs, networking the entire house together to use the cable modem was my first Linux project.

      And no, I don't own 27 pairs of sweatpants.
        ssh'ing into your home network, mainly. that's why i pay extra for a static IP. also, i can run my own outgoing mail server, since i'm not likely to automatically get onto any blackhole-type lists (e.g. RBL, DUL). i've seen dynamic DSL ranges make it onto the DUL (Dialup Users List).
        Yah, running services is part of why I like having a static IP. But the most important thing to me is, I never have to negotiate with some server for an IP address, and never have to worry about there not being an available address at any given time, the way I saw it happen on occasion with my housemate's dynamic IP. That's pretty important to me.

        That my buds who run their own household ISP can tweak their DNS settings so that I can be, and that I can host multiplayer D2 games, is icing on the cake... ;)

            - Muse

RE: My home internet connection is
by amelinda (Friar) on Nov 10, 2000 at 01:21 UTC
    Yeah yeah, you all suck. I got the 14.4k still plugged in at home. Someday I will have the time to set up a gateway machine (no, not Gateway) with the 56k, and someday my husband may convince me to go DSL, but when I can sit on the T1 at work, I get home and mostly don't bother getting online.
RE: My home internet connection is
by arturo (Vicar) on Nov 08, 2000 at 23:36 UTC
    <input type='radio' name='vote' value=8>A 56K dialup that operates at 42.6K ... I'm looking for a recount.

    Philosophy can be made out of anything. Or less -- Jerry A. Fodor

      Almost as bad as my 56K dialup that connects around 32k, after dialing twice!

      I cancelled my isdn and got an Omnisky cdpd modem for my palmVx. What was I thinking?
        My dad's (and formerly my own) phone line only gets 26.4k, with a 56k modem. US West only guaranteed speeds up to 2400 baud. I wonder if that's changed now that they're Qwest?
RE: My home internet connection is
by royalanjr (Chaplain) on Nov 09, 2000 at 00:30 UTC
    Ack... I feel like I am crawling with my ISDN line!

    Roy Alan

RE: My home internet connection is
by el-moe (Scribe) on Nov 09, 2000 at 06:23 UTC
    I have a cable modem through @HOME and have found it to be completely and utterly trouble free. I have called tech support before and have been put right through to whoever I needed to talk to.

    I would sign up for the same service again without reservations...


Speaking of firewalls...
by motomuse (Sexton) on Nov 10, 2000 at 02:25 UTC
    (We were speaking of firewalls, really we were. Or I was, anyhow.)

    Just to bring some Perl into this discussion, and because I'm inherently lazy and don't want to burn time hunting up references and such if somebody else has already done that work, and because my own understanding of how firewalls work is sketchy at best:

    Has anybody written any firewall-implementing code in Perl? Open question, this, incorporating a number of subsidiary questions, like "Can it be done? Is there a reason (not) to do it?"

        - Muse

RE: My home internet connection is
by cwest (Friar) on Nov 10, 2000 at 03:28 UTC
    Working for the ISP and living in the flat above the office has it's rewards:

    9.24 Mbps/sec

    yeah baby!
       I am a superhero.
(jeffa) RE: My home internet connection is
by jeffa (Bishop) on Nov 08, 2000 at 23:30 UTC
    I used @Home cable modem back in Murfreesboro. Now I live in Louisville and have to re-connect the service. So I call the folks and they say "We'll call you back in 2 weeks and let you know when we can hook it up!" - Great!!

    So now I use sneaker net. ;)

    Oh yeah, a buddy up here said I could use his modem, but after getting use to a cable modem, what's the point?!

    Finally got a DSL connection at the end of January 2001.

(jcwren) RE: My home internet connection is
by jcwren (Prior) on Nov 08, 2000 at 23:47 UTC
    I would have liked to seen IDSL and ADSL broken out, along with ISDN as an option. Not to mention DirectPC.

    If anyone cares, I use (as do a couple of other people on the site), and have been quite pleased with them. I currently am backhauled through Sprint ATM from Atlanta to Seattle (and a 300ms ping time to prove it), but they're supposed to be putting in a POP in Atlanta in Q1/2001.


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RE: My home internet connection is
by turnstep (Parson) on Nov 09, 2000 at 22:32 UTC
    Call me a heretic, but I still haven't ever really experienced the *need* for anything faster than the 56K modem I use. The only possible reason could be MP3 files or perhaps a new kernel, but those are rare events. Even MP3's don't take that long. I mostly use the connection for email (no problem), web browsing (no problem, I have J/JS turned off anyway), and ssh to various boxes (no problem, even though they are geographically spaced far apart). Yes, faster would be better, but I have yet to find a burning need that would justify the cost and the hassle (and loss of privacy) that a faster connection would entail. Okay, my VNC sessions refresh really really slow, but I really just stick to ports 22, 25, and 80 for day to day use.
RE: My home internet connection is
by mrmick (Curate) on Nov 10, 2000 at 01:01 UTC
    I have an @HOME cable modem through Rogers... It's often " Like sucking golfballs through a straw "
    I guess I could make two votes. :-)


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