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Re: (OT) Perl Snacks

by de-merphq (Beadle)
on Nov 10, 2004 at 17:31 UTC ( #406732=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to (OT) Perl Snacks

The parent node was deleted by the normal consideration process and then later restored by de-merphq with the general approval and consensus of the gods. If you don't think the node should be posted and you want to express the fact DOWNVOTE THIS NODE NOT THE OP! HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RESTORE.

People eat. Programmers eat. Food is an important factor that too many hackers ignore. Reminding people to eat and eat well on a hackers site just may keep our readership just little bit healthier than they are.

While we don't want a lot of wildly OT material here in the monastery the occasional "we are all human too" nodes arent a problem, and this one in particular shouldnt be at all. OTOH Please confine food related postings to this thread. (And who knows with a bit of luck Larry and the other Perl Gurus might post some of their favourite recipes, might just give a whole new meaning to a "Perl Cookbook" :-)

alter ego of demerphq

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Re^2: (OT) Perl Snacks
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 10, 2004 at 18:12 UTC

    De-merphq You had a rush of blood to the head didn't you? Go on, admit it. A power crazed, god-like rush of blood to the head.

    Yes, Perl programmers eat.

    So do Perl programmers use C and SQL and shell scripts sometimes, but these topics are frequently considered too far off topic unless there is at least a semblance of Perl relatedness.

    Perl programmers also excrete.

    I have some time-honoured advice on the appropriate angles of declination of the upper torso to maximising throughput, thus ensuring greater programmer productivity by reducing downtime. Shall I post the meditation?

    Examine what is said, not who speaks.
    "Efficiency is intelligent laziness." -David Dunham
    "Think for yourself!" - Abigail
    "Memory, processor, disk in that order on the hardware side. Algorithm, algorithm, algorithm on the code side." - tachyon

      Sometimes the place gets a little stuffy BrowserUk. And if you were to consult the appropriate chatter log youd see the answer is no i didn't get a rush of power. I didn't even think to restore it until theorbtwo pointed out that I in fact had the power to do so.

      I respected your right to consider it for deletion, but in this case without any criticism of the consideration you made I felt it was appropriate to override it. Its not something im likely to do often, but I felt that in this case the node shouldn't have been deleted. From what ive seen in the chatter lots of monks here like cooking and frankly a little around-the-cooler banter here isnt totally out of place. The other thing is that I'm pretty sure that had a more established monk written a node in the appropriate tone on the same subject it wouldn't have been deleted. I mean he might not have quite touched the right tone but he at least made an effort.

      Im really hopeful that the restore of this node wont get political. We dont need any more politics than we all already have in our lives and a little bit of light hearted stuff around here would help to keep the site lively.

      Consider "the node which shall not be named". What difference is there between a node about why people chose their nickname and a node about what peoples favorite recipes are?

      alter ego of demerphq

        Three points:

        1. On this basis, every single node that has ever been deleted on the basis of it being off topic should be forthwith reinstated.

          For the record. I am not in favour of this.

        2. I thought that the main difference between the CB and other mechanisms for communication in this place, was that the CB was impermenant. Ie. Logs of it should not be kept.

          If these exists, beyond the temporary life extension of cblast35, they shouldn't--at least as I understand it. And if they do exist, how is anyone without knowledge of their existance, meant to consult them.

          This is the basis of my objection to the use of the CB as a mechanism for deciding site policy. You say that the gods were consulted prior to your reinstating the post--but how can this be verified?

        3. Your hope that this "...wont get political....", is, and should be, forelorn.

          Any expression of power, as you expressed when you overode the (much lauded) consideration system, is, by it's very nature, political.

          Effectively, it renders that system irrelevant and bogus.

          You have, in that single, misconceived action, confirmed my expressed misgivings, that you decried as hurtful, that the administration of this place is arbitrary, capricious, and totally bankrupt as a societally-based ethical mechanism.

          That's okay. There is no Monk's Charter, or Bill of Rights involved on this site--but the pretense that there is should now stop.

        Examine what is said, not who speaks.
        "Efficiency is intelligent laziness." -David Dunham
        "Think for yourself!" - Abigail
        "Memory, processor, disk in that order on the hardware side. Algorithm, algorithm, algorithm on the code side." - tachyon

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