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Re^4: Proposal: Option to Decline XP from voting

by Aighearach (Initiate)
on Nov 13, 2004 at 02:50 UTC ( #407579=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Proposal: Option to Decline XP from voting
in thread Proposal: Option to Decline XP from voting

You're using Colectivist arguments as if they disprove Individualist arguments. The truth is that TMTOWTDI, including more than one way to think. And if think differently, that doesn't mean the other person is wrong. In particular if you have different and conflicting philosophies, as in this case.

As an individualist, I have to say that binding the meaning of my XP to the group, introduces a "random element" whereas leaving the meaning up to me, removes any arbitrary or seemingly random elements.

Additionally, this "keep seperate scores" stuff is all fine and dandy except that users don't get to install hooks into the voting system to do so. It's like saying, an alternative to walking is time travel. No it isn't. Not before the time travel machine is made available.

I don't expect the Group to repect and honor indiviuality, but at least let us have our opinions without being told they're wrong because they're not optimized for the Aggregate. Isn't it enough to win?


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Re^5: Proposal: Option to Decline XP from voting
by Roy Johnson (Monsignor) on Nov 13, 2004 at 03:09 UTC
    You're using Colectivist arguments as if they disprove Individualist arguments.
    That's an interesting claim, considering that I didn't try to disprove anything.
    leaving the meaning up to me
    ...obviates the need for system-tracked XP at all. Just award them to yourself whenever you think you deserve them, and give yourself the title you think you deserve. That's individualism.

    Your individualized scoring system is no more available than mine, so I don't see how you can criticize my proposal on that basis.

    at least let us have our opinions without being told they're wrong
    While I didn't tell you that your opinion is wrong, it seems hypocritical to say that my opinion on that matter should be squelched.

    What I proposed is a system that tracks several measures separately, and any individual has them available to make a personal evaluation, distinct from the "Collectivist" evaluation by the system that XP are.


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      ...considering that I didn't try to disprove anything.
      Granted that "prove" was a poor choice of words. What I was refering to there was mearly
      Drop the random elementRandomness reduces information, it doesn't contribute to it.
      Your individualized scoring system is no more available than mine, so I don't see how you can criticize my proposal on that basis.
      Because this thread is a proposal to implement said system. I didn't get the idea you were recommending I be allowed to add my own triggers to the database, rather it seemed that you were suggesting I could simply implement my system.
      While I didn't tell you that your opinion is wrong, it seems hypocritical to say that my opinion on that matter should be squelched.
      I apologize if it came across that way. Certainly, opinions are to be encouraged. Perhaps I overstated my disagreement with your ideas.

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