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RE: It's about courtesy, guys!

by jepri (Parson)
on Nov 14, 2000 at 20:36 UTC ( #41593=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to It's about courtesy, guys!
in thread Who owns your words? A resolution is needed.

Some people here (perhaps you) are requesting me to change my expectation about the CB (pub to me), to presume that there's not only the temporal attendees, but a microphone connected to a loudspeaker outside the building. I'm sorry, but if that were to happen to me explicitly in a pub, I'd probably stop talking. And if it happened to me implicitly in a pub, I'd raise bloody hell as I did here, because it violates what I consider to be the scope of my audience.

I always viewed the chatbox as more like a street corner, but I do appreciate your point. You thought you were surrounded by friends and/or companions and someone did something that you consider quite unfriendly. But how do you scope your audience? You and I haven't even talked to each other up to now, but you had that whole conversation in front of me.

So that's why I feel violated when the transcript was quoted. I thought I was talking in a pub, and someone published a pub chat in a newspaper. Further, I thought we had already agreed not to do that, but as I've seen now, that's not the case.

I just had a quick look through the site FAQs - I can't find it anywhere. It's a bit late here so maybe I'm missing it.

I'm glad we're getting a chance to discuss it now. What I'd like to see is a resolution (soon) that codifies the expectation.

How should we resolve this? I feel you should have provided some mechanisms for this, rather than just throwing the question out - that makes it seem rhetorical. We could do a quick poll, or a vote or something. But it seems that the way you handled it worked quite well. (I guess)You contacted the person responsible, said something, they changed their mind and all was OK again.

If you are worried in particular about my hard line post, then I assure you that I won't print a transcript of any conversation you engage in here, without your explicit permission. Believe it or not, I agree with you. It wasn't the politest thing for someone to do. I'm just strongly against rules. Courtesy, sure. Enforced, I'd rather not.

I'm sorry if this is a little incoherent, it's late but I think you wanted a response sooner rather than later.

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RE: RE: It's about courtesy, guys!
by merlyn (Sage) on Nov 14, 2000 at 21:34 UTC
    How should we resolve this? I feel you should have provided some mechanisms for this, rather than just throwing the question out - that makes it seem rhetorical. We could do a quick poll, or a vote or something. But it seems that the way you handled it worked quite well. (I guess)You contacted the person responsible, said something, they changed their mind and all was OK again.
    Well, I didn't provide a mechanism because I didn't have that part of it figured out yet. Could be an edict from vroom, for all I care, or some sort of democratic process that doesn't require a recount. {grin}

    And I'll disagree with you on the way I handled it turning out well. I invoked percieved authority, and cited non-existing standards. Now that my bluff was called (grin), I'd never be able to get that kind of response again. So the next time around that something appears, we are now more ambiguous, rather than less. Unfortunately, I've now set exactly the opposite precedent I wanted.

    So we still have the problem on the table. Let's discuss it until it's resolved, because until it's resolved, I must be a lot more guarded in the chatterbox, and I don't like that (although I'll adapt to that if it turns out to be the case).

    -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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