Thanks for the idea, the boss wants it rewritten to a brand-spankin new system. The VB system is very old, even though it works fine, there's lots more we'd like to do with the system and just couldn't do with VB. The other thing would be that we are moving away from Microsoft and trying to go either linux workstations or mac mini's. Most everything we do is now moved over to linux, this is one of our last apps and it's probably going to be the hardest to move over.