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Re: TPJ future in question
by footpad (Abbot) on Jan 03, 2001 at 21:40 UTC
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This is most distressing; I recently subscribed and have yet to receive my first print issue. However the online archives are well worth a careful scouring. It would be very sad to see this resource disappear.
Does anyone know how we can get EarthWeb to reconsider their decision? Or, perhaps more appropriate, help suggest they transfer the magazine to someone who cares, such as O'Reilly or other perl advocate?
In the mean time, I suspect I'll be spending some free time in capturing the current archives.
--f
P.S. Some may take issue with my suggestion that O'Reilly is a perl advocate. Please don't. It is meant as a compliment to the quality of coverage they've given the language in their publications. | [reply] |
Re: TPJ future in question
by Corion (Patriarch) on Jan 03, 2001 at 23:28 UTC
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I don't think that the problem is this adverse. From what I've read into the posting on Slashdot, TPJ is still running well on the financial side, even without the infrastructure of Earthweb. This means that, after all the juridical hassles (like Earthweb wanting to keep the TPJ name and domain(s) and customer data), there will be most likely the nTPJ or TPJ-NG (or even TPJ-Lazarus), run by the same people as TPJ-Original.
Of course, this tells a lot about EarthWeb, but I guess it will only hinder the progress of TPJ, not stop it. As
the success story of TPJ tells us, people still want reprints of the first 20 issues, so the quality of TPJ is
mostly undebated - which will be a selling point when starting the next generation.
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Re: TPJ future in question
by InfiniteSilence (Curate) on Jan 03, 2001 at 22:26 UTC
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Re: TPJ future in question
by $code or die (Deacon) on Jan 06, 2001 at 08:37 UTC
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This is a real shame. TPJ is fantastic, I only subscribed at the time that EarthWeb bought it, but I have a few back issues.
While a few of the articles were way-over-my-head, it was always an interesting read and there was plenty of material which was immediately useful and inspiring to me. I really looked forward to receiving my copy and wished the issues were published more frequently.
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Re: TPJ future in question
by InfiniteSilence (Curate) on Jan 15, 2001 at 19:26 UTC
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It's possible that some of the expenses could be reduced--office space, salaries, other overhead. I don't know the budget of TPJ, but it's often (though not always) possible to do things more cheaply when an effort is volunteer.
The newspaper I used to edit runs a loss now, but it's a labor of (love|ego) and people kick in to keep it going.
adamsj
They laughed at Joan of Arc, but she went right ahead and built it. --Gracie Allen
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Re: TPJ future in question
by perlmonkey (Hermit) on Mar 20, 2001 at 06:58 UTC
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Is there anything new on this issue? I have been looking around and have not found much. Until today I have been ignoranly plotting along patiently waiting for issue 20 to arrive any day now. This is quite depressing.
I cant believe they yanked the whole damn domain ... how much freaking cost can it be to let the tpj server keep dishing out the current content.
Even if the magazine never gets published again it would be great to have an online resource like that.
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The domain is currently working - tho' it has
been a bit flakey over thelast couple of months. As a
bonus, the content of all the previous issues is now freely
available to anyone, instead of just to subscribers.
Update: Just looked again - and they've reverted
to the content being available to subscribers only.
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<http://www.dave.org.uk>
"Perl makes the fun jobs fun
and the boring jobs bearable" - me
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In the Netherlands we have a saying, which -translated- is someting like "Making someone happy with a dead sparrow"....or in your case with non-free articles :(
Jouke Visser, Perl 'Adept'
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