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Re: PERL newbie Cant figure out where to start

by ww (Archbishop)
on May 01, 2006 at 18:28 UTC ( [id://546717]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to PERL newbie Cant figure out where to start

welcome, jwashburn
  1. Use 21 Days as kindling for a nice bonfire (Personal view, YMMV)
    (Update, upon mature reconsideration and a few LARTings: Lay it aside, for now, against a day when it may read more compellingly for you. My response is not a learned critique of the coding therein but I too found it difficult to focus upon -- and that's an issue of personal style.)
  2. Try Learning Perl from O'Reilly ...
  3. Overcome your boredom -- thru willpower or by getting a good intro. Learning a language takes serious attention to detail and not a little concentrated work.
You should also check out the Tutorials here at the Monastery...
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Re^2: PERL newbie Cant figure out where to start
by aufflick (Deacon) on May 02, 2006 at 04:25 UTC
    Very good advice, that a newcomer would do well to follow.

    Admittedly I already knew the basics of programming in Pascal, C, Fortran, cshell, Prolog and a little Miranda & Haskell.

    Update: That got me to thinking that there is a step (0) - learn some good practises about how to convert your human desires into stuff that a computer can understand. Maybe Elements of Programming with Perl that Posthumous recommended might be a good introduction to programming.

    Having said that, getting from University to the point where I would consider myself an accomplished Perl programmer (among other things) took the following steps:

    1) Had someone lend me an old copy of Learning Perl from O'Reilly. My copy was for Perl version 4. I wouldn't recommend you use that version ;)

    2) Wrote many small scripts while managing servers, building ISPs etc.

    3) Intentionally avoided a book that I saw in a bookshop with a sticker that said "258 pages for only $19.95" (It was probably a SAMS publication).

    4) Bought "WIN32 Perl Bookshelf" from O'Reilly (no longer in print) with the express purpose of bringing greater sanity to some Windows servers. Realised that 99% of the pages was just nicely rendered CPAN module documentation.

    5) Wrapped with that useless purchase, however, was a single edition of the then premier The Perl Journal. I subscribed and discovered that reading about the crazy algorithms and problems being published in said journal were very motivating and enlightening. Current equivalents would be The (new) Perl Journal and PerlMonks (any others anyone?)

    6) Bought Programming Perl and used it as a reference using Perl as a piece of my toolkit while running my own IT business.

    7) Read Programming Perl cover to cover in a weekend to brush up before doing a technical test for a full time Perl job.

    8) Program in Perl (wash, rinse, repeat)

    That might sound like a long time (and it is!) but I'm hoping to use my journey's example to back up the advice given by others in this thread.

    First you need a good introduction that doesn't trade simplicity for correctness, but also that doesn't babmboozle you with details. Learning Perl is an excellent example of this.

    Then you actually need to do something with your knowledge - for business or pleasure. That's what makes it interesting, reinforces what you have learnt (in positive and negative ways ;) and keeps you hungry to learn.

    Once you have done this for a while, then you can get a big, thick, detail heavy book and read through it. Because of your pracital experience it will sink in (with more than a few 'aha' moments).

    When you are accomplished in programming (any language), then you will start to be able to learn the essence of new languages quickly. For instance I have read about a third of Programming Ruby and have been able to write a number of non-trivial applications in Ruby. Even now, though, I would steer well clear of any "Learn <insert language> in 48 hours". All the ones I have seen read much more like "Learn <insert language> in 48 hours and then write a book on it".

    Also remember that you never "get there" or stop learning. I recently enjoyed becomming familiar with Ruby, learning Objective-C and writing some Cocoa applications for MacOS X. The most recent Perl books I have browsed are Higher Order Perl and Perl 6 Essentials. Online I have recently re-digested Perl Guts illustrated (which now makes MUCH more sense ;)

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