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The flip side.... PhP is dying.

by zentara (Archbishop)
on Jul 28, 2006 at 13:05 UTC ( #564353=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

After all the "Perl is dying" trolls here recently, I thought this might bolster our confidence again..... Lead PHP Developer Quits


Jees..... all the corporations better start reconsidering their support for PhP, since it's leadership is collapsing, which will undoubtly lead to web chaos.


I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum

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Re: The flip side.... PhP is dying.
by Mutant (Priest) on Jul 28, 2006 at 13:13 UTC
Re: The flip side.... PhP is dying.
by swampyankee (Parson) on Jul 28, 2006 at 15:30 UTC

    In a similar vein, everybody should stop using jet engines because Frank Whittle is dead.

    The worst thing that has happened to computing is putting PCs on the desks of people with MBA's.


    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

    Groucho Marx

      Wait . . . you actually let one have a real computer that isn't made of cardboard like they use on display furniture the in office supply stores?</Dilbert homage>

        He thought it would be a good idea, and can sign his own purchase requests.

        The real downside of ubiquitous PCs is that I've got to do my own typing. In my first position the group (about 20 engineers; I was an engineer then; my diplomas still say "BSME" and "MSME") actually had a person with a typewriter! She could not only read my handwriting (slightly better than the scratches of a drunken chicken) but could also knew the correct way (for that company) of formatting memoranda and reports.

        Added in edit

        To be more accurate, I should have said "MBA's who have no experience programming" instead of just "MBA's" in my prior post. The real problem with giving PCs to managers (not MBA's, per se) is that many of them start to manage by PowerPoint and Excel, instead of leaving their offices and peaking over people's shoulders. My current supervisor is actually quite good (and he's not reading this 8-)).


        Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

        Groucho Marx
Re: The flip side.... PhP is dying.
by ww (Archbishop) on Jul 28, 2006 at 13:24 UTC
    ...and Franco is still dead (along, one may suppose) with Jimmy Hoffa, Judge Crater and a few fictional characters.

    ( except for spelling :-}) ), ++zentara

      You talking about the spelling of facitious? Thanks I fixed it. Any others? :-)

      I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum
Re: The flip side.... PhP is dying.
by Lies of Society (Initiate) on Jul 30, 2006 at 04:32 UTC

    That developer left for personal reasons, and I don't think he appreciates you and others reposting that all over the web. His departure had nothing to do with PHP itself. He's a Fin who served as a UN Peace Keeper, and since one of the UN observers killed recently by the Israelis is also Finnish, he's decided he can't in good conscience continue work on a project funded by an Israeli company (Zend).

      Thanks for "the rest of the story".

      P.S. If you know the man, please give him my apologies; but he unwittingly got caught up in another war.... the language wars.

      I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum
      Well, in fairness to Zentara, his letter is publicly posted on the web. It's not as though Zentara were revealing a secret. Simply saying he's leaving and that it will be a blow to the PHP project isn't exactly libelous. One might even consider it complimentary.

      s''limp';@p=split '!','n!h!p!';s,m,s,;$s=y;$c=slice @p1;so brutally;d;$n=reverse;$c=$s**$#p;print(''.$c^chop($n))while($c/=$#p)>=1;
Re: The flip side.... PhP is dying.
by jdtoronto (Prior) on Jul 31, 2006 at 17:23 UTC

    It is true that many events get blown out of all proportion. And this would be just one of those. I also appreciate your facetious tag, nice to see some levity here fomr time to time.

    Perl just isn't sexy right now - so what are we gonna do? Proably not a lot we can do. Most of the things that folk pop up and say "we should do" or "we should have" are already done, often first, by the Perl community at large. Languages like PHP have a place, but I am convinced that "in my shop" isn't one of them. Maybe it is the people, but every time I have gotten involved in something with PHP, usually because somebody around here finds a contractor with a 'cloned' version of something that appears to be immediately useful. However EVERY single projetc involving PHP has turned into something of a nightmare. The coders don't seem to understand the MVC paradigm or re-usability. So we have found sometimes five or six chunks of code that display exactly the same thing. However this is a fault of the coders and how they are taught (or not) rather than the language itself. But I digress.

    Despite the circumstances in which this developer finds himself, I am sure the PHP effort and the Zend effort will continue, but one day something will come along and take the shine off PHP, maybe it will be the PHP/Parrot implementation that Rasmus Lerdorf was msuing about a few years ago and PHP will come home again, right back where it started.


      Perl just isn't sexy right now

      Hey, thats just like me. (Well I do get a few glances when I wear my army boots with my french maid outfit :-) )

      I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum

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