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Re^5: Want a million dollars?

by tilly (Archbishop)
on Oct 04, 2006 at 19:24 UTC ( #576385=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^4: Want a million dollars?
in thread Want a million dollars?

I just looked at the thread again and my description and I stand by my basic reaction.

He demonstrated that he did not understand compile versus run-time, nor did he understand how use works. Nor did he immediately reach for the documentation when he had a problem. This was after he had been on this site for over 2 years.

I admit that it is possible that in the following year he has improved his understanding of how Perl works, and he has learned to reach for the documentation first. I submit that it is unlikely.

As for causing offense, I did not do so accidentally this time. The first message attempted to explain why this effort was unlikely to go anywhere. As I said elsewhere in this thread, I think it a valuable life skill to be able to muster appropriate cynicism. Unfortunately what tends to happen is that lots of experienced people have the thought, but nobody wishes to come out and say it. Since I think the point is valuable, I'm willing to risk offense sometimes by saying it.

Subsequent to that, in my response to kwaping's response I stated why I was responding like that. I've personally had some horrible experiences (on this site and elsewhere) with people who try to insist that because they are a member of a particular group, I should think well of them. In fact it has happened enough that insisting on that line of argument generally results in me thinking worse of you. *shrug*

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Re^6: Want a million dollars?
by tinita (Parson) on Oct 05, 2006 at 09:23 UTC
    He demonstrated that he did not understand compile versus run-time, nor did he understand how use works. Nor did he immediately reach for the documentation when he had a problem. This was after he had been on this site for over 2 years.
    wow. better have a closer look. kwaping *registered* at april 2003, yes. but that doesn't mean he has been using the site during 2003 and 2004. (same with me, i registered february 2003 but started really using the site in 2004, actually).

    i realize very often how much perl i can learn in a short time, and there's still a lot to learn. to bug kwaping because of his post one year ago and to assume he hasn't learned since then isn't fair. sure, programmers can overestimate themselves, and that's not good (saw this myself when i was advising someone at their probation day). but in kwaping's post i did not see a sign he's doing that.

      Very good point. I just looked at his nodes, sorted by oldest first, and found that his first post was Re: Finding the name of the target of a coderef in April, 2005. Assuming that he has been active since he registered was obviously a bad assumption on my part.

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