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My Career2.0

by Anonymous Monk
on May 01, 2009 at 21:53 UTC ( [id://761415]=perlquestion: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Anonymous Monk has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

What would be your 2nd full-fledged career? Being a programmer for so many years ( 10+), I like to do something that can use my skills but can give a new dimension to my life full time that can generate lots of money too. And I am open and looking for neat ideas.

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Re: My Career2.0
by hangon (Deacon) on May 02, 2009 at 00:25 UTC
    ... give a new dimension to my life full time ...

    Start a business.

    ... that can use my skills ...

    Start the right business.

    ... that can generate lots of money too.

    Start the right business and work hard at it.

    Some other things you will need:

    • Your connections
    • Persistence
    • Dedication
    • Cajones

    • Cajones
    • and what may they be pray, "balls"?

        sacks of Courage
Re: My Career2.0
by almut (Canon) on May 01, 2009 at 23:02 UTC
    ...give a new dimension to my life full time that can generate lots of money too.

    If we knew what that is, we probably wouldn't tell... and otherwise, we have nothing to tell ;)

Re: My Career2.0
by morgon (Priest) on May 02, 2009 at 00:13 UTC
    Do something interesting, make lots of money, stay legal.

    Pick any two.

      "Do something interesting, make lots of money, stay legal."

      First two if not necessarily the third become a Lawyer

Re: My Career2.0
by whakka (Hermit) on May 02, 2009 at 00:38 UTC
    To take the chance and start anew
    is not well suited except for few,
    and even then it's not to taste
    to find out later you were in haste.

    We only get one chance at life
    and starting over includes your wife;
    so go home at night and clutch your drink
    to tire these sorts of thoughts you think.

    er...well hypothetically I would design board games.

Re: My Career2.0
by renodino (Curate) on May 01, 2009 at 23:53 UTC
    4 simple words: "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"

    Perl Contrarian & SQL fanboy
Re: My Career2.0
by apl (Monsignor) on May 02, 2009 at 00:09 UTC
    I think your requirements may be mutually exclusive. 8-)

    Unlikely, that would (possibly) make lots of money? Successful Science Fiction writer. Mad scientist.

    Reasonable, but wouldn't make lots of money? Teacher.

      I second teacher. My passions have also been math and programming. I would love to teach high school math or be a computer science professor at a university.

      The former doesn't pay very well, but you do get summers off :)

      The latter could pay very well, but I'm not looking to do lots of research to make the university happy. I think our education system in the states is awful. Most of the professors are so busy with their research that they forget how to teach and don't make themselves available to the students. I don't want to be that guy either.

      I guess I'll just stick with software for now...

Re: My Career2.0
by Xilman (Hermit) on May 03, 2009 at 17:39 UTC

    Most of the replies to this question that I've seen so far have been on the rather silly side but, perhaps, interpreting them as a unit provides a sensible response.

    Looking back on my career so far, a period of nigh on thirty years, and I'd say that I am still trying to work out what I want to do when I grow up. That is a serious comment, despite its apparent flippancy.

    To go into the comment in more detail: perhaps you are asking the right question in the wrong terms. Doing something new every so often is a Good Thing, in my opinion. I've a short attention span and feel the need to do something radically different every five to ten years.

    What I do is keep interested in a whole bunch of different subjects; add new subjects every now and again; never stop educating myself in subjects that take my interest; join communities which share those interests; learn from those communities and contribute to them.

    After all that, pay attention to opportunities that arise naturally and grab opportunities as they arise. Carpe diem, if you're classically educated.

    In the interview for my penultimate job I explicitly told the interviewer about my short attention span. The reason was two-fold ---; to answer the question about my previous work history and to indicate that although I would work well for several years, I didn't expect life-long employment unless my employer could keep the job interesting. It seemed to work, in that I got the position. Indeed, I'm still there though working only 2 days a week now. The other 3 days a week are spent on the next opportunity to arise.


Re: My Career2.0
by talexb (Chancellor) on May 02, 2009 at 04:03 UTC

    Cooks stand all day but / otherwise I'd love to cook / day in and day out.

    Music is fun but / playing the same song each day / would get boring fast.

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

Re: My Career2.0
by webfiend (Vicar) on May 02, 2009 at 07:14 UTC

    My planned second career is traveling troubador tattoo artist and short order cook.

    But coding pays better and still feels rewarding, so I'm sticking with it for now.

Re: My Career2.0
by pileofrogs (Priest) on May 03, 2009 at 19:26 UTC

    Rather than change what you do, maybe you could change where and for who? They must need coders to rebuild Iraq. That would be fun. Or, if you're passionate about some cause or other, go find a way to do that, IE be a civil-rights-coder. Love Bavarian beer? Go write code in Munich. Want to go scuba diving? All those banks in the Cayman Islands must need coders... oh, maybe not any more...

Re: My Career2.0
by Bloodnok (Vicar) on May 02, 2009 at 10:58 UTC
    I might be a bit long in the tooth to say this but, personally speaking, I think I'll see if I can work out wtf my 1st career is (I don't think keen amateur beer taster qualifies as a career) ... and then possibly look forward to a 2nd one :-D

    A user level that continues to overstate my experience :-))
Re: My Career2.0
by december (Pilgrim) on May 04, 2009 at 09:28 UTC

    Can't you go into team leading or training junior programmers? I've been thinking to move more into the team leading, project planning and network architecture direction myself, because I really like to spend more time doing social interaction rather than just sitting behind the computer the whole time.

    My main activity is Unix system administration and security auditing rather than programming, though.

    When (and not if) I'm truly fed-up with IT, I would probably try to study medicine or clinical psychology, because I'm interested in the human brain and more specifically sleeping disorders.

    I've also got a degree in several languages, and I could get some translation work here and there if I'd look for it. Learning a language is something I'd advise to people who want something new/extra, because it gives you an immediate edge over others in international environments at least when you choose wisely...

    "Jobs that generate lots of money" aren't exactly up for grabs just like that, and you would need to start over from a pretty low position unless it's related to your current employment. Obviously nobody hands out well-paid positions with lots of responsibility to people that haven't proven themselves... In this economical climate, you could do so much worse than having a decent job and regular pay-check, even if the job gets a bit boring and one-dimensional...

    I don't want to sound negative, but if you come to an internet forum asking how you could make a lot of money, you probably aren't the kind of person that will get filthy rich... It seems people who "generate lots of money" have a nose for that sort of thing all by themselves. And while I think IT people usually get a decent pay, I don't think it's the best sector (anymore?) to get rich easily. Good techies would make less than good economics/manager folks... Being a programmer, you probably fall into the former category rather than the latter. You'd have to move more into managing or economical matters. Or well, inventing something really new and amazing and then being able to sell it is one other way to get some money, but such great creative ideas are rare, and you'd not be asking here if you had some. ;)

    Anyway, good luck with whatever you do...

Re: My Career2.0
by col (Monk) on May 02, 2009 at 14:11 UTC
      You don't want Plumber/electrician/carpenter/--astronaut might be one to consider-- but all u do is practice working, but never get anything done. I have done the others and I would rather be a coder. my2cents,dave,admin,
Re: My Career2.0
by hda (Chaplain) on May 04, 2009 at 10:15 UTC

    The question is very relevant except perhaps, as others pointed out, the "lots of money" part.

    I just wanted to mention something I read somewhere decades ago (forgive my age-related amnesia). That article raised the point that in the future (mmmm, problably today?) people will most likely have to reeducate themselves several times, three or four, to keep on in the job market and so on.

    The idea doesn't seem too strange or too crazy to me. Besides the market part, there might be changes in personal interests as well or plainly becoming tired of one's eventual activity.

    Good luck in your search of Career2.0!!!

Re: My Career2.0
by Boldra (Deacon) on May 04, 2009 at 09:23 UTC
[OT] Re: My Career2.0
by salva (Canon) on May 04, 2009 at 11:18 UTC
    I like to do something that can use my skills but can give a new dimension to my life full time that can generate lots of money too

    Create a new religion (usually forking an old one).

    This worldwide recession period may be an excellent time for doing that. You will be able to find lots of hopeless people full of angry you can canalize and abuse.

    Being familiar with computers, you can say God talks directly to you by email, or even using something more up to date as some P2P network or some custom Perl6 script.

    Good luck!

Re: My Career2.0
by dwm042 (Priest) on May 05, 2009 at 22:02 UTC
    Systems administration and IT is my second career. I was doing science before this.

    I've seen my father, my brother, friends all launch second careers. Most of them weren't done to make a lot of money (except for my brother, who is still working at it). The vast majority of second careers won't make you wealthy, but you spend an awful lot more time making sure you're satisfied and happy. You'll tend to kiss "suffering for the cause" good bye.

Re: My Career2.0
by holli (Abbot) on May 03, 2009 at 13:52 UTC
    Achieve World Domination.


    When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's difficult to remember that your original purpose was to drain the swamp.
Re: My Career2.0
by tbone1 (Monsignor) on May 06, 2009 at 19:05 UTC
    I always wanted to be ... a lumberjack!

    tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
    And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
    - Chick McGee

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