My only reason for ever learning or doing any programming was because I could never get any real programmers to write the programs I thought were needed.

I would not accept that what I wanted was really "impossible". Often they didn't really seem to comprehend what I was trying to say, or didn't listen long enough to really get it.

Well I shouldn't say never.

ARPA/DARPA did get a few thing going, and the W3C has done a lot, Google, etc. but as much as things progress, I still feel frustrated that they just, either didn't quite understand, or just couldn't quite get it right.

I hope my (fumbling attempts at) programs will inspire some actual real programmers to write some real programs that do what mine do, or try to do, but much much better.

Tom