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Voting nodes: I've had enough

by Mission (Hermit)
on May 26, 2001 at 16:08 UTC ( #83492=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I'm finally going to discuss the many voting issues that have come up... again, and again, and again. I'm sure that if I really took the time to do a complete search on voting topics, I know that this would come up a few thousand times. I think these are all good discussions, but these discussions all seem to assume that there is a problem with our current voting system. What is the problem? I've heard problems like:
  • personality votes
  • trolls
  • OT nodes
  • the actual worth / value of a node
  • voting fairness
  • etc...
There are more to that list, but I'm targeting brevity.

Here are my thoughts. In that list (although not complete) I do not see a 'real' problem. Sure we have trolls, we have people who take it upon themselves to bug the living 'crap' out of some other monks, sure we have OT nodes that get voted up and no one knows why, and yes we have the many discussion topics about why we dream about code, and how to get along with other and those nodes get a pretty good rep as well. Again, my focus, What is the problem?

I don't believe that there is anything to fix. This is a non voting issue. I believe what people are complaining about is acutally a community issue. This IS a community (just in case people forget it.) We all communicate here with the intended focus to be Perl. We have a way to give greater focus on some conversations by voting on them. It's a simple concept, so why are we making this more difficult. I believe that why I see so many people discuss voting is that we get side tracked from the community aspect and get focused on the darn XP (yet another topic that can drive people to insanity... BTW: there's nothing to fix there either.)

I want to make a petition to Our Fearless Leader to please ignore all conversations about altering our voting system. It works as intended. The community at large will vote to keep what the community wants. They will police out the trolls, the OT nodes, and other things that the community doesn't want. What I think we really need to discuss is how to "get along" with others in this virtual monestary. I know this may not be a popular topic nor node. I truely don't care. What I am tired of is conversations about trying to fix something that is working just fine. I would hope that these kinds of conversations would eventually come to an end, but I doubt it. I've searched, and my viewpoint has definatley been made by other, and many more worthy than I.

Bottom line: Voting works. It's not broke. Use the tools you are given to make a difference in your viewpoint. I apologize if it seems that I am angry regarding this issue, but to some extent I am.

- Mission
"Heck I don't know how to do it either, but do you think that's going to stop me?!!"

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Complaint: No more complaints! (Re: Voting nodes: I've had enough)
by Vynce (Friar) on May 26, 2001 at 17:00 UTC

    less than 24 hours ago, footpad said basically the same thing. if we didn't by and large agree, would that node's reputation be as high as it is? i doubt it. so i suspect you can take heart in the idea that most of us agree, mission. now let's stop complaining about the people complaining about the system and just use it.

    did i complain that out loud? i did!   now, if only i could -- my self for it... (:

Re: Voting nodes: I've had enough
by lemming (Priest) on May 26, 2001 at 23:28 UTC
    In my node I did say
  • "Do we really need this?
    Not really, I'm just throwing more work at fearless leader, but this may spark off a better idea."
  • Just because something is not broke, doesn't mean it can't be improved or even discussed. I enjoyed reading the feedback, expecially chipmunk's and footpad's.

    I will also mention that my suggestion had nothing to do with policing, etc. I regard voting, rep, and xp as interesting side shows of the monastary. If any changes happen, fine; if not, fine

Re: Voting nodes: I've had enough
by blue_cowdawg (Monsignor) on May 27, 2001 at 05:40 UTC

    I neither like nor dislike the voting system. It's there and it works. This is one case where the saying "If it aint' broke don't fix it" applies very well.

    In the short time I have been posting to Perl Monks I have already recieved my share of both down votes and up votes.

    Peter L. BergholdSchooner Technology Consulting, Inc.

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