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Re^3: Sharepoint Automation?

by moritz (Cardinal)
on Sep 15, 2010 at 11:49 UTC ( [id://860203]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Sharepoint Automation?
in thread Sharepoint Automation?

If the inability to download files is your biggest hurdle, you can just build a CPAN mirror with CPAN::Mini, store it on a USB stick (it's about ~1GB in size, smaller if you exclude all Acme modules), and take it to your work computer.
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Re^4: Sharepoint Automation?
by roboticus (Chancellor) on Sep 15, 2010 at 13:20 UTC

    moritz:

    Just a general note: At many institutions, even the USB keys are locked down so you can't use 'em. It can be a real chore to get permission to get code onto systems. I've had to fight that battle at previous places of employment. For production systems, it can be a tremendous pain. Luckily, I could install CPAN modules onto my personal computer, so for many tasks like the OPs, I'd develop a one-off on my own computer to automate a task.

    ...roboticus

Re^4: Sharepoint Automation?
by Argel (Prior) on Sep 15, 2010 at 19:36 UTC
    It seems like every time I run across these "Yes you can use CPAN" threads you guys are basically encouraging someone to make a potentially career limiting move by circumventing company policies (an especially bad idea given the current economy and how high unemployment is). Granted, the OP is usually vague on this point, so what I would suggest is that you specifically ask about it first -- for example try: "Is there a company policy against using unapproved code?" -- and if there is just let the issue drop.

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

      It seems like every time I run across these "Yes you can use CPAN" threads you guys are basically encouraging someone to make a potentially career limiting move by circumventing company policies

      Sorry, I can't let that stand as is. Neither Tanktalus suggest circumventing company policy, nor do I. I explicitly prefixed my advice with If the inability to download files is your biggest hurdle. If there is a policy against it, that's the biggest hurdle, not the inability to download files.

      Showing solutions to technical limitations is hardly a career limiting move.

      Granted, the OP is usually vague on this point, so what I would suggest is that you specifically ask about it first

      Sorry, I think that's completely backwards. If somebody asks a question here, (s)he is supposed to invest some time and energy come up with a good, coherent and answerable question.

      If the question shows some probable lack of knowledge, I think it's perfectly fine to give some pointers to resources that talk about the topic, or write something about it. It's the employee's job to know the company policies, regardless what somebody on the internet says.

      I don't live in the US, and I won't print "warning, hot" on coffee cups.

      Perl 6 - links to (nearly) everything that is Perl 6.
        There's nothing wrong with giving additional advice in general, but your approach could be better. I mean, look at this thread -- did the "yes you can use use CPAN" threads add any real value? Or help answer the actual question? No, they didn't. Worse, the OP was bombarded with what are essentially off-topic questions. A better approach is to ask if policy prevents the use of CPAN modules first. In this case, the answer would have been yes and that would have been the end of the "use CPAN" threads.

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

      Well, it's a bit of a recursive issue. If the OP can't use CPAN, the OP definitely can't use code written for him/her here. The same legal issues would apply and they would generally be much worse. Everything on the CPAN is under some kind of open source license. I post code here all the time and I don't think I've ever listed a license against it. I don't think most monks have. Which means most of the code here is not open licensed and a legal risk for anyone to use.

        Comparing code snippets, short code examples, etc. to modules on CPAN is more of a contrast than a comparison. For larger code examples (e.g. meditations come to mind) then there may be legal risk. Of course, for anyone still active on here, we could always ask about a license and the OP could update the node with license info. Good point overall.

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

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