stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem

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Re: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by wind (Priest) on May 26, 2011 at 15:13 UTC
You need to use double quotes to interpolate the character in $cgj: `my $cgj = "\N{COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINER}"; my $cgj_re = qr/$cgj/xms;` [download] or just include it directly in the cached regex. `my $cgj_re = qr/\N{COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINER}/xms;` [download]	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by mje (Curate) on May 26, 2011 at 14:24 UTC
Shouldn't that be double quotes not single quotes around the \N.	[reply]
Re: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by ikegami (Patriarch) on May 26, 2011 at 16:02 UTC
`{ use charnames ":alias" => { FOO => 0x2660 }; my $pat1 = '\N{FOO}'; $re1 = qr/$pat1/; } { use charnames ":alias" => { FOO => 0x2661 }; my $pat2 = '\N{FOO}'; $re2 = qr/$pat2/; } { use charnames ":alias" => { FOO => 0x2662 }; /$re1$re2/ }` [download] What should the pattern match? Probably /\N{U+2660}\N{U+2661}/, but the information is not available to qr// at run-time, much less to the m// operator that's not in scope of the relevant directives. Those problems were resolved by converting \N{NAME} to \N{U+NUM} at compile-time, and throwing an error when presented with \N{NAME} at run-time. `"\N{NAME}"` works. `qr/\N{NAME}/` works. Others, not so much.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by tchrist (Pilgrim) on May 26, 2011 at 17:52 UTC
Alias games aside, I have yet to read any argument for why `\N{NAME}` should not simply use the currently active charmap, and/or autoload the `:full` one. This would handle all but the rarest sitatuations, and it would make Perl stop violating the principle of least surprise. In other words, instead of generating an exception like `Constant(\N{NAME}) unknown: (possibly a missing "use charnames ...")` [download] It should in that situation implicitly do a `use charnames ":full";` [download] and get on with it. In other words, if you need a charmap and don't have one, just load what everybody is expecting.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^3: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by ikegami (Patriarch) on May 26, 2011 at 18:28 UTC
Auto-loading :full would be most desireable, but it wouldn't help here. It seems to me the OP's issue could be resolved by attaching charnames data to statements (just like strict flags). Then, qr// could translate \N{NAME} to \N{U+NUM} at run-time just like it does at compile-time. That would even handle aliases. Is that hard to do?	[reply]
Re: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by anonymized user 468275 (Curate) on May 26, 2011 at 14:15 UTC
Hmmm short answer is that everything is working perfectly - Perl is supposed to give an error if the regexp is incorrect ;) - Seriously though, what functionality are you actually wanting? One world, one people	[reply]
Re^2: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by JavaFan (Canon) on May 26, 2011 at 15:50 UTC
Well, I would want Perl to accept this. Either by just DWIM (heh, if it can figure out what is wanted when giving the error message, why not just f*cking do it? If I wanted Pythonesque behaviour, I would have run python), or by just not doing anything special. Preferably the former. IMO, it's ok for a language to say "look buddy, I do not know what you mean here". But languages that say "oh, I know exactly what you mean, but I'm not going to do it because you didn't use some magic incantation" have no business to exists outside fora like the hates-software mailing list.	[reply]
Re^3: stuck with a \N{CHAR NAME} problem by anonymized user 468275 (Curate) on May 27, 2011 at 10:26 UTC
Is there another language really that DWIM? You know, I could do with a good reason to switch to part-time work ;) One world, one people	[reply]


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