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by simonodell (Acolyte)
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Re: I will be vindicated
by jdporter (Chancellor) on Jul 13, 2011 at 04:14 UTC

    First, you strongly imply that you were the author of the paragraph you quoted. You were not. (Unless you are Pascal Heus, that is.) Since you're not, you don't have any grounds to claim the (alleged) genius behind it.

    Second, that thesis paper doesn't support your argument nearly as well as you suppose, because

    (a) The language the author proposes is truly an XML language, while yours is not; and
    (b) He did not invent the concept of XML-based programming languages. In fact, they've been around for at least 10 years, and there are tons of them out there, including Ant, XAML, MXML, XUL/XBL, XSLT, o:XML, Water, etc. etc.

    Since we're on the subject of XML-based programming languages, I refer all interested to this fascinating article, one of whose conclusions is that XML is a really crappy syntax for a programming language: Extensible Programming Systems for the 21st Century by Dr. Gregory V. Wilson, 2004.

    I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
Re: I will be vindicated
by Limbic~Region (Chancellor) on Jul 12, 2011 at 15:54 UTC
    Up until now, I haven't responded to any of your posts because frankly - I can't stand web development. I believe I have remained dispassionate and objective and am having a hard time understanding why you are so upset at people's responses. Setting that aside before continuing, let me recap what I believe you have come up with.

    You have created your own templating language that allows you to develop web applications easier and faster. The way this templating language works is by code generation rather than simple substitution. It appears to have some built-in short cuts which is one of the points of contention.

    Assuming I have that right, you then reached out to the community through this forum to get people excited about what you have done and have them collaborate because optimizing for run time is something you wanted help with. From there things went down hill.

    My advice: Stop wasting your time arguing. Find a different approach to get interest in your project and then let it gain mass. For instance, limit yourself to 3 hours and build a brand new publicly available website from scratch. Then, share with everyone how long it took you to build it along with how little work it actually took to build it. Then someone like me who hates to build websites might say - hey, that looks easy - I wonder how it works.

    My offer: If you can give me something specific that you would like help with. A piece of code, a module, etc - I will be happy to take a look and tell you how I would go about optimizing it. What I don't have is a lot of time learning/exploring some new thing that I can't immediately see the personal benefit of.

    Cheers - L~R

Re: I will be vindicated
by zentara (Archbishop) on Jul 12, 2011 at 17:50 UTC
    What I have invented is pure genius, and I am not surprised it is going so far over your collective heads that you feel the best way to deal with it is ..... I loathe the concept of justifying myself to my intellectual inferiors

    Yeah, I know how you feel, it dosn't pay to be too far ahead of your time ;-)

    My advice is to forget programming entirely, except as a hobby, and start working on your plans for World Domination! After all, why should such a magnificent mind like yours be wasted in an IT dept., when you could be controlling all of creation. :-)

    P.S. Watch out for the inferior minds trying to hang you on a cross, they like to do that.

    I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth.
    Old Perl Programmer Haiku ................... flash japh
Re: I will be vindicated
by MidLifeXis (Monsignor) on Jul 12, 2011 at 17:57 UTC

    The link you provided is very interesting reading. Combined with source of your implementation it might even be ground breaking.

    Like Limbic~Region, I have not participated much in the previous few threads that you have started. However, the attitude and blatant disrespect for IT professionals, students, and others on this forum is inexcusable. I am enough of a cynic to ask someone to prove it when suggesting their solution is better than anything else out there. Hand waving does not count. Something reproducible, something that can be examined, something that can be tweaked and retested is necessary. That is how science works. You may be as brilliant as you say you are, and your framework may be the end of all other frameworks. Assuming that is the case, you are still going to need to prove that your system is one that should be used over other proven solutions.

    Many con men (I am not including you in this category) are also very talented individuals in their own right. That does not mean that I would trust anything that they say. Snake oil, phishing, and certified check scams should be enough to drive that point home. What individuals have asked for is the ability to verify your results. Nothing more.


Re: I will be vindicated
by ikegami (Patriarch) on Jul 12, 2011 at 19:58 UTC

    Oh my, that puts the shoe on the other foot does it not? Did you notice the bit I highlighted? Here it is again : XML driven compilers.

    But what does that have to do with the language you posted? It wasn't XML driven.

    Maybe if you stopped lying, people would actually pay attention to your system.

    It's not like it needs to be XML driven. In fact, being XML driven can actually be a negative. You apparently think it's a negative since you didn't stick to XML. So why not promote that fact instead of actively denying it? (e.g. You could say you are using different braces in lieu of different namespaces because it saves typing. Or whatever the reason is.)

    *You* are making the conversation about everything but your engine. If you want want it to be about your engine, make it about your engine.

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Re: I will be vindicated
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 12, 2011 at 15:18 UTC

    So anyway, you want some proof that you should pay attention to what I am telling you?

    Um, no thanks troll who hacked simonodells account. I look forward to the real simonodells return.

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Re: I will be vindicated
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 12, 2011 at 18:40 UTC

    you are too stuck in your CLASSICAL thinking to even comprehend the level of genius you are dealing with here.

    How would you know? We keep asking for a clear explanation of your algorithm/framework/paradigm shift -- or code -- all we get is vague hype

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