Try DuckDuckGo://

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Re: Try DuckDuckGo:// by metaperl (Curate) on Oct 12, 2011 at 18:39 UTC
DuckDuckGo is incredibly powerful, and I'm really excited about it. to have done as much as he has done all by himself is incredible. and I think it's all in Perl with nginx as front-end webserver. and his response to feedback about issues is incredible. I dont like that teensy-weensy little arrow to pulldown for alternative searches. And unfortuntely the amount of intelligence that google puts into studying webpages and providing relevant results has never been matched before or after them. The mantra of every experienced web application developer is the same: thou shalt separate business logic from display. Ironically, almost all template engines allow violation of this separation principle, which is the very impetus for HTML template engine development. -- Terence Parr, "Enforcing Strict Model View Separation in Template Engines"	[reply]
Re^2: Try DuckDuckGo:// by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Oct 12, 2011 at 23:43 UTC
google puts into studying webpages and providing relevant results has never been matched before or after them I'm actually increasingly frustrated with Google's bad guesswork, erroneous query rewriting, parochial filtering/blocking/banning of resources, and catering to the lowest common denominator of web users. And I'm not even the only one in the local cube cluster so this doesn't seem to be a fringe reaction to their direction.	[reply]
Re^3: Try DuckDuckGo:// by djzort (Sexton) on Oct 13, 2011 at 00:11 UTC
add my +1 to duckduckgo, although i dont always find their results to be as good as google, i enjoy their community and the no-nonsense web design (why google was cool originally) googles latest redesign is fugly. ddg has just hired their first (second if you consider the founder) employee, and lots of their code is on github	[reply]
Re: Try DuckDuckGo:// by Anonymous Monk on Oct 12, 2011 at 13:39 UTC
Being a forward thinker I had already used `[ddg://...]` in Re^2: Perl Exercises: For Beginners, Re: How to implement a Design Pattern/ Strategy?? Checking now, seems ok, though you link to the javascript version of the search page	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: Try DuckDuckGo:// by jdporter (Paladin) on Oct 12, 2011 at 13:48 UTC
Cool! Ok, how do I make it link to a non-js version?	[reply]
Re^3: Try DuckDuckGo:// by Anonymous Monk on Oct 12, 2011 at 14:00 UTC
the js version is proper, it contain <noscript> tags, so http://duckduckgo.com/?q=... will show This page requires JavaScript. Get the non-JS version [https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=\|here]	[reply]
Re: Try DuckDuckGo:// by DrHyde (Prior) on Oct 13, 2011 at 09:55 UTC
If only DDG's search results were as good as google's ...	[reply]
Re^2: Try DuckDuckGo:// by Anonymous Monk on Oct 13, 2011 at 12:19 UTC
For the most part, they are :) The problem is, google has gotten worse, 10 results per page, and those stupid google-gaming-portals that just keep sprouting up	[reply]
Re^3: Try DuckDuckGo:// by DrHyde (Prior) on Oct 17, 2011 at 10:03 UTC
I agree that google today isn't as good as it was a year ago, and that their search results are not quite as good as they were a year ago, but the search results are still better than DDG's. "Better" means that I get results that I deem to be more relevant to my queries. The words "I" and "my" are important there. My real beef with google these days is their hijacking of the cursor keys so that they don't scroll the page any more, instead they select the next link on the page.	[reply]
Re^2: Try DuckDuckGo:// by Anonymous Monk on Oct 13, 2011 at 12:13 UTC
Were google's as good as google's when they started out? They were better than altavista and made those of the various msyahaol 'portals' look positively primitive, but ignoring the valueless, quota-sucking and annoying web2.0 frills, their core competency did improve markedly with time, expertise and especially size in the early years. For the last few, their value adds have been mostly valueless. Mostly change for the sake of change. Kinda like most of the additions MSOFFICE for the past 10.	[reply]
Re^3: Try DuckDuckGo:// by DrHyde (Prior) on Oct 17, 2011 at 10:03 UTC
Google's results were, at the point I started using it, mostly better than the competition, although I did still occasionally use Yahoo's "curated" index for a coupla years. If DDG is to get users, it needs to be as good as or better than the competition most of the time. The competition is Google. My apologies for typing "If only DDG's search results were as good as google's" instead of "If only DDG's search results were as good as their competitors'" which appears to have confused you.	[reply]
Re^4: Try DuckDuckGo:// by mojotoad (Monsignor) on Nov 08, 2011 at 09:17 UTC
Re^5: Try DuckDuckGo:// by DrHyde (Prior) on Nov 08, 2011 at 10:40 UTC
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Re^3: Try DuckDuckGo:// by metaperl (Curate) on Oct 13, 2011 at 19:01 UTC
duckduckgo is really just yahoo search results if I'm not mistaken? The mantra of every experienced web application developer is the same: thou shalt separate business logic from display. Ironically, almost all template engines allow violation of this separation principle, which is the very impetus for HTML template engine development. -- Terence Parr, "Enforcing Strict Model View Separation in Template Engines"	[reply]
Re^4: Try DuckDuckGo:// by jdporter (Paladin) on Oct 14, 2011 at 14:04 UTC
Re^4: Try DuckDuckGo:// by djzort (Sexton) on Oct 15, 2011 at 12:35 UTC
Re: Try DuckDuckGo:// by nando (Acolyte) on Oct 17, 2011 at 17:20 UTC
The idea of "bangs" I feel very good, since there are many sites that people use intensively for certain tasks, and centralize the searches that concern them in the DDG, delegating the task to the internal search of the site is a clean solution . I think this type of search works better than the solution by site restriction on google "XXXX site: YYYY.com" which depends on the ability of the "crawler" to crawl the entire site, but is the site himself the more interested agent in publicing their content through a good search engine. Moreover, the solution "google" is more general, does not depend on mnemonics and is applicable to any site without human intervention. Providing millions of results is not the solution to the problem of finding information. The problem is to provide a dozen of them ... But well chosen. The bangs are a form of valuing the experience of people in relation to some websites that accept as reference. Paradoxes ... Translated by Google Translator... :)	[reply]


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