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It is so tacky for people to upload their own modules to CPAN (a world-wide network of computers). Such blatant self-promotion. If the module is worth something, some interested third party could be found to upload it for them.

That's an interesting logical fallacy for someone calling my reporting of my perception of the issue a strawman.

I also think you need to stop assigning me motives when you're telling me to stop assigning other people motives. I wasn't going into sections of the site 'looking for "self-promotion"'. I was annoyed by something, and decided to ask others about it. You know, that whole discussion in a forum thing, in this section called "PerlMonks Discussion", where I thought it would be on-topic to discuss PerlMonks.

I made no distinction about "little people" or "big people" or what someone may have achieved regarding Perl or any other part of their lives. Those are your words. I simply mentioned that I think modules used by more people would be news rather than noise to more people. Those mentioned by name are, in every case, the authors of modules I mentioned as examples of widely used tools.

I think that if one wants more feedback, Meditations might be a better place to post as discussions there seem (I don't have the stats) to garner more feedback than in Perl News. I also think that people have come to expect Perl News to be a low-traffic part of the site for particular kinds of nodes. This may be a mistaken expectation and it may even only be my expectation. For those of us who read by section and plan which sections to read based on time available, finding things in surprising places can be disruptive to our reading habits. Maybe I'm alone in that regard. Maybe I'm not.

If your solution is to say that "Perl News" is a misnomer and people shouldn't follow the stated advice of:

For the latest news on what's happening in the Perl world, check out these sites:
If you have a Perl news item, please consider posting it on one of the above sites. Otherwise, you may post it in this section. Please try to avoid duplicating news.
then that's fine, and I'll just quit expecting people to follow the stated advice, too. Perhaps making the forum description clearer about what belongs there would be more helpful, though, than stating one thing then recommending that people ignore it.

The whole issue with the label of "news" is that it connotes that something is objectively reported. Very few people can objectively report on their own actions. What you get when you release subjective material as news isn't really news but propaganda. Yes, I include most web journals, TV shows, newspapers, radio shows, or whatever that do the same thing as the same thing. Either it's news, it's commentary, or it's propaganda. If you want a generic word for all of it, "reports" or "happenings" come to mind. "News" carries information with it that your description of the section simply doesn't seem to me to support.


In reply to Re^2: What exactly counts as "Perl News"? (interesting) by mr_mischief
in thread What exactly counts as "Perl News"? by mr_mischief

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