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You are not the first to accuse this site of being a den of elitism. I think if you'll take a step back and look around, though, you'll find that's not quite true.

There are a few people here out of the many people using the site who come off as elitist to a more or less degree more or less of the time. Many of the ones who do don't even intend to do that. They are just so used to having good answers and people accepting what they give that they sometimes forget that new people don't defer to them in awe. They really are elite rather than elitist pretenders, but it might take some time to find out one from the other. It's part of the community dynamic that forms in any technical discussion forum, and probably in any guild-like or gift-culture scenario for that matter. Knowing who is a valuable contributor to a group is part of communing with that group. It's yet another reason for the sage old advice to lurk a while before posting and to contribute before challenging the status quo.

You make some good points in some of your posts. However, you often word your posts brusquely. I've been known to do that, as have some others. It's forgivable once in a while. You also go on the attack before following through answering a question asked of you. Some people here have shown a positive interest in what you're trying to present and taking a deeper look at it. They will not be convinced of its greatness on your word, but they have asked to see it and what is special about it. That level of interest in your work is not a slight against you. It is, in fact, a high form of praise at your initial mention of your work. You seem to have taken the opposite view, that not immediately assuming the work is groundbreaking without having a chance to further study it is an insult to you. That is unfortunate. Communicating this impression may not have been your intent, but it is what many people are getting by reading your nodes here.

Several people here have labelled you a troll and will thus downvote this node just for me responding to you. Let them. This is not because they disapprove of your work. It is because you have been rude according to the social mores of this group, with no past build-up of trust from previous positive input. There are several people trying to remind the users of this site that each post should stand on its own merits, but you are upsetting people quickly and reliably enough that they are sharing ways to never see your posts. If your true intention is to troll, then you're not going to be able to very effectively because most of the users will eventually not see your nodes. If your true intention is to get help to be a better programmer, a better Perl programmer, and to better evaluate and improve your project then the same caveat applies. People will not be badgered (badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom) into helping you. They'll just ignore you unless you approach the site and the topic of your work in a friendlier way.

You may notice I moved this thread into Perl Monks Discussion and out of Meditations. Your initial node here is about the site, so I felt it was a more appropriate place. It is not an attempt to bury your opinion, but to place it in the appropriate venue. Others at this point may use other tools available to them to try to bury this thread. That would be a shame. This thread is valuable to the community as a whole, even if people decide they don't like you or what your initial node in this thread has to say.

As a matter of fact, although I think you have shown a bit of a habit to overreact to criticism here, I think there has been just as much of an overreaction to you by some other users. You have a point that sometimes people here don't seem very inclusive, but i think that if you'd give the community more of a break the community would give you more of a break.


In reply to Re: Bad Religion! by mr_mischief
in thread Bad Religion! by Logicus

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