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in thread [OT] Am I just a bad programmer?

"... I never received any guidance, training, or support..."

I can confirm this, unfortunately. In more than 20 years I had only five days training: 3 days Flash programming (MacroMedia certified). This was pretty good. 1 day Peregrine. Badest software ever written. This was just crap. One day introduction into "Datenschutz". This was like the Spanish Inquisition. Some day some boss jumped to the conclusion that the employees need some training in English business language. He hired a coach for some weeks. The training was after works at 6 PM. We started working at 6 AM. Plus 24/7. Fortunately my English isn’t so bad. I successfully refused to take part. And luckily it is prohibited in Germany to work 14h a day and then start a 10h on call nightshift. At the end of my "career" someone jumped to the conclusion to introduce a new technology: Liferay. Written in Java. And total crap. They started a project and scheduled it for 3 month. We needed 3 years until it was customized and performed without crashing ever 12h. No real experienced Java programmers in the company. We learned it on the fly, less or more. And it was hard core stuff. I never was so much under pressure as in these days. We asked for support. Hiring a certified consultant. This was rejected. More things come into my mind. More than once I brought my own workstation to my workplace. I used my own reference library. One might say that I payed for my work. Looking back I can say that it was luck when I got fired. But when it happened I was really depressed. See also

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Re^3: [OT] Am I just a bad programmer? (Java)
by hippo (Bishop) on May 10, 2020 at 11:35 UTC
    Liferay. Written in Java. And total crap.

    Indeed. A client of $work chose to deploy liferay about 6 years ago. It was glacially slow, a massive resource hog and yet fell over in a faint breeze. They persisted with it for 4 months or so before giving it up as a lost cause. I've no idea how much they squandered on it but expect it wasn't cheap.

    If I were in this game for the money I would be a java programmer/publisher. You can apparently write and ship complete dross in java and still people will pay enterprise-level cash for it.

    See also: Re^2: Can Perl do anything Java can do?

      Somehow it must be (or is) a kind of Urban Legend with this Java stuff. And project managers like The Promised Land and The Holy Grale. IT must be good. Because from Sun/Oracle. Apple used it for years for their WebObjects. IT must be good. IT is a real programming language because it’s OO. IT must be good. If repeated > 1000 times everybody believes it. Cato used a similar method more than 2000 years ago. And Carthago disappeared. IT is good. Else bad programmers. Basta. Hint: If you want to get brain-fucked for some unknown reason take a look at the code of LifeRay. Don’t do it. I have sorrows about your mental health. One more thing: I can’t remember how often I was forced to get up at about 2 or 3 AM to kill some fubar crashed Java applications. And the word TomCat should be better avoided when I’m in the room.

       —- pamphlet mode ends here —-

      Best regards, Karl

      «The Crux of the Biscuit is the Apostrophe»

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        I know about Cato but couldn't help remembering Cato ;-)