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Not only is the PM praise good, but also knowing what plans he's got for modules are rather exciting and interesting. Parse::FastDescent, for example, as well as the "evil" that can be raised with Parse::Perl :-)

Of course, /. also has posted a link to the article, and as usually, there's the handful of negative commentary in addition to some useful ones. Of note that I saw was that someone was trying to demonstrate the various design patterns in the Book of Four as done in perl; the site is patternsinperl.com, and run by Nigel Wetters. Looks to be an interesting project.

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by grinder (Bishop) on Dec 13, 2001 at 18:24 UTC
    I guess I don't read /. much anymore, since there are no ++ and -- buttons by each node ;). That said, I did go and have a look at the Damian thread. I uncovered the following jewel:

    One of the reasons for my irrational hatred of all things java is that a lot of people involved with it seem to think that java is a skill. It's not, it's knowledge. In my last company, we did a lot of programming with C and C++ and various technologies such as RPC, Corba, COM etc etc. and yet at least two people resigned because they couldn't put the magic j word on their resume. Careerwise at the time (pre dot bomb) they were right. You could have 10 years of C coding experience, a signed certificate from Donald Knuth that you were the top programmer of all time and you still couldn't get a job in a .com startup because you didn't know java yet.

    My sentiments exactly.

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Re: Re: Damian praises Perl Monks
by drewbie (Chaplain) on Dec 13, 2001 at 03:24 UTC
    I've talked with the author and he plans to get some sample chapters together to shop to a publisher (Manning). He mentioned that he is having a weekly design patterns study group in London where he plans to try out the text. Currently there is only some intro text and the Factory pattern, but he expects to have several more patterns completed by end of year.

    I thought the idea was so cool that I'm trying to put together a study group in Boston. If you're interested, join the Boston.pm list or email me directly at drew at drewtaylor dot com. Right now I'm thinking either before/after the monthly meeting or 1-2 times a month at some other location. I've done some studying of patterns, but I would love to have a better idea of how to properly implement them in perl. Anyone can code, but only some people have what it takes to properly program. ;-)

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      Is there really that much benefit to collecting in person? Code review is best done at leisure, in my experience.

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        The purpose is not for code review, but to study the patterns themselves and learn how and when to implement each. We'll also of course talk about how to implement them in perl, but I'm more interested in learning the patterns. I've skimmed the GoF book, and it's not light reading. I've found that for me, groups can help me to overcome those little stumbling blocks I can't quite get over. Sometimes all I need is just a little help to get to "Eureka!".

        Two minds are better than one.

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