openssl s_client -showcerts -connect perlmonks.org:443 CONNECTED(00000264) depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate --- Certificate chain 0 s: <------ weird to be empty i:/C=US/ST=New Jersey/L=Jersey City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA ...