I've been on the $FOO mailing list for over a month now, it's sad to see that there is hardly any traffic (by comparison, $LANGUAGE's $BAR, a similar framework, gets around 30 ~ 40 emails per day). I'm a mailing list junkie, believing that the traffic size is a good indication of the following, the support, the community and possibly the future of the technology. I like $FOO very much, although I've only been using it in one of my projects (and on and off on that), it's really a great framework, making many things easier/cleaner. I always feel its documentation is lacking, if not in content, certainly in organization. So why aren't you using $FOO? because you're not aware of it? you don't work on that type of project? you want better documentation? ...($FOO home is at http://$FOO.perl.org/)