or download this
C:\Users\peter.jones\Downloads\TempData\perl>perl Makefile.PL
Generating a gmake-style Makefile
...
"C:\USR\LOCAL\APPS\BERRYBREW\PERLS\SYSTEM\PERL\BIN\perl.exe" -V:myunam
+e -V:make
myuname='Win32 strawberry-perl 5.30.0.1 #1 Thu May 23 12:20:46 2019 x6
+4';
make='gmake';