Re: (tye)Re: Cast

i disagree, on similar points as the prior post. I think seeing the down votes would give the post author some feeling as to if this sort of post is a good choice (appropriate, useless, why ever people down votes nodes). I think anyone willing to complain that they have --'s on a node with this feature would already be in the CB complaining because they have been stalking around keeping track of every posts change all through the day.
<overly_extreme>So, why hide information from people to protect them ... scrap to open source/free speach ethic and hide it all from the fools ... Muahahahahah;</overly_extreme>
update:fixed spelling error

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(tye)Re2: Cast by tye (Sage) on Jul 27, 2001 at 19:50 UTC
I'll grant that there are a few people who have developed a "problem" with downvotes and already monitor for them and then complain about them. And such people have a higher rate of "complaints about downvotes" per monk, but they currently only account for about half (by my informal count) of the complaints about downvotes. The other half of complaints come from people when they encounter the downvote for the first time or nearly so. This is the area where I think this change would cause the number of complaints to skyrocket. One thought that crossed my mind that I didn't mention was a "test" you had to pass before you could see counts of downvotes. The test would involve reading a big disclaimer about how noone wants to hear you whining about getting downvotes and so, before this feature can be enabled, you have to promise to never, ever whine/complain/discuss about downvotes (in nodes or chatter). Ever! And then there'd be a some questions to answer to ensure that you got the message. Though I think this could help counteract the increase in complaints, I still think the net result would be more complaints. As for your last paragraph, you seem to be addressing stage 2. I've move waaaaay beyond that. I don't want to protect people. I could care less if they get their feelings hurt from downvotes (I blame having to listen to the complaints for my new, callous attitude). People keep saying that the XP don't matter but then they complain when they get a few downvotes. It's all a big game, and if there is one thing that is true about games, if you play, then you gotta expect to lose sometimes. - tye (but my friends call me "Tye")	[reply]

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(tye)Re2: Cast
by tye (Sage) on Jul 27, 2001 at 19:50 UTC

I'll grant that there are a few people who have developed a "problem" with downvotes and already monitor for them and then complain about them. And such people have a higher rate of "complaints about downvotes" per monk, but they currently only account for about half (by my informal count) of the complaints about downvotes.

The other half of complaints come from people when they encounter the downvote for the first time or nearly so. This is the area where I think this change would cause the number of complaints to skyrocket.

One thought that crossed my mind that I didn't mention was a "test" you had to pass before you could see counts of downvotes. The test would involve reading a big disclaimer about how noone wants to hear you whining about getting downvotes and so, before this feature can be enabled, you have to promise to never, ever whine/complain/discuss about downvotes (in nodes or chatter). Ever! And then there'd be a some questions to answer to ensure that you got the message. Though I think this could help counteract the increase in complaints, I still think the net result would be more complaints.

As for your last paragraph, you seem to be addressing stage 2. I've move waaaaay beyond that. I don't want to protect people. I could care less if they get their feelings hurt from downvotes (I blame having to listen to the complaints for my new, callous attitude). People keep saying that the XP don't matter but then they complain when they get a few downvotes. It's all a big game, and if there is one thing that is true about games, if you play, then you gotta expect to lose sometimes.

tye

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