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Hi Ken,

Thanks for your references. And I appreciate your advice.

I also appreciate ww comments and working examples. The following example was the cause of my confusion:

I wanted to write

Win32::OLE and Excel - Tips and Tricks by cacharbe (Curate) Thank you

Which I keyed as [http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=153486|Win32::OLE and Excel - Tips and Tricks]

when I pressed create (after multiple previews :-) I was sent to [id://2294|Permission Denied]. And that does not happen today. So maybe it was nothing I did, but just a server thing.

(I now know there is more than one page and how to avoid going to a search)

With respect to the Monastry typo, it shows as a link in preview. I found out it was wrong after I created the post and updated the text to monastery.

anyway, thanks again for your patience and advice. I hope I have not overstayed my welcome!

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Re^3: Suggested improvement to the 'Permission Denied' page
by kcott (Archbishop) on Aug 05, 2013 at 00:44 UTC
    "Thanks for your references. And I appreciate your advice."

    You're welcome.

    "Which I keyed as [http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=153486|Win32::OLE and Excel - Tips and Tricks]"

    PerlMonks has (I believe) six domain names: three TLDs (.org, .net, .com) each +/- the "www.". When you specify the domain name in a link, you'll often take readers to another domain that they're not logged in to: at best, this is a nuisance we'd all prefer to do without; it can cause various issues which then require further effort to rectify; it might result in angry responses which is probably something you'd prefer to do without. By not specifying the domain, the readers remain on the domain they were logged in to (and all is good). Anyway, that's the reason for not doing it; you appear to have picked up how to do it correctly (e.g. with id://). You might also be interested in: "How do I link to a node on this site by number?".

    One further point on this: you don't need to use the exact page title as the "link text". Often, when referring to another node in the same thread, I might write something like this markup:

    ... in addition to [id://nnnn|the very good points] already made by [M +onkName] (above) ...
    "I hope I have not overstayed my welcome!"

    I hope so too. :-) Otherwise, I've wasted an awful lot of time providing advice and information for future reference to someone who isn't coming back and therefore won't need any of it. :-(

    Seriously, we all make mistakes when starting out: don't worry about it. You're clearly making an effort to do the right thing and that is appreciated.

    -- Ken

      Thanks for the explanations Ken.

      And I will be back once I have figured out the problem in the other post.

      Ken,

      I, for one, “struggle with disbelief” when confronted by the realization that PerlMonks does, indeed, appear to have three different incarnations:   .org, .com, .net.   Such that, when I open a new browser-window (being logged-on to the one), and open another, “Perlmonks” now seems to have no knowledge of me.

      In every other web-site that I have ever used or known-about, there was “only One True Ring.”   If you inadvertently specified “the wrong” extension, you either got (a) the advertising-laden domain of a “cyber-squatter,” or (b) a silent redirect to the “official” one.   In other words, “all roads (should) lead to www.perlmonks.org.”   Here, much to my six-years-old surprise, this does not appear to be the case.   “Innocent li’l ol’me” now very-frankly wonders ... why not?   Why, indeed why, is this site “the odd Monk out?”

        "I, for one, “struggle with disbelief” when confronted by the realization that PerlMonks does, indeed, appear to have three different incarnations: .org, .com, .net."

        This sounded like complete garbage when I first read it: I was certain you'd been given this information already. In fact, I was reasonably certain that you'd been given this information multiple times as you seem to engage in much the same rant whenever this general topic crops up in a thread.

        A quick search of Perl Monks Discussion, for threads started by you, found this one which has this direct reply containing, in the first line:

        "... of the six permutations of the root URI ({www,}.perlmonks.{com,org,net}), ..."

        What you've posted here is clearly just another of your rants. I will be downvoting your node for this reason.

        "In every other web-site that I have ever used or known-about, ... [rant continues] ..."

        Perhaps you could use those websites instead.

        -- Ken