Re^2: Poker Datamine

Yes that's exactly what I want to do, the data I posted was an example of how it appears at each stage of the hand. I will be getting it in real time as the hand goes on and as players make decisions, but I need to know how to get the actions straight into a database.

If you know of some other way I could scrape the data into an sql data base in real time I could just use perl after that.

Then work out the rest once I get that far!

Any site or literature you know I could study to learn this technique would be a great help!

There are many people trying it out and as far as I know bots are not detectable unless you play at pokerstars/full tilt.

However you can open any table from a seperate ip address and run the program on that if you need to play pokerstars or full tilt.

This is for Ipoker and unlike pokerstars and full tilt the data is not encypted as far as I know because lots of sites sell this information already. They are obtaining it through scraping the data as I have explained. I just need to know how to do it any literature would be much appreciated.

I have to go to work now, but I will update this post tomorrow with more information on the Ipoker software i.e what language its built in etc. It is an app on my computer though, so it may be saved in a floder somewhere. I'll look tomorrow gotta go.

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Re^3: Poker Datamine by aaron_baugher (Curate) on Oct 02, 2013 at 23:57 UTC
Well, as I said, it depends on how you're getting the data. If you're getting it in the browser with Javascript, then you might be able to save it to a local SQLite database, or connect to a server with Ajax and dump it into a database there. But a browser is limited for security reasons in what it can do on the local system and what servers it can contact other than the one already in the window. Perhaps there are ways around those limits; I don't know. On the other hand, if you're getting the data by sniffing your network traffic or sticking some kind of proxy between client and server, then that program could save it to a database. If the poker client is standalone, not browser-based, that seems like the most likely method. I don't have any resources to suggest, but I think you may want to try terms other than "scraping." Scraping normally means pulling web pages and mining data out of them one after another. You're not talking about web pages here; you might not be talking about the web at all. To scrape something, as I understand the term, you run a program that stands in for the client and grab what the server returns. That would be the ultimate way to run a bot -- have it connect in place of the official software -- but that's very unlikely to be possible. You need a way to run the poker software and get the chat stream that goes to it. Try doing your searches and adding "traffic sniff(ing\|er)" and "proxy" to see if you find anything. I don't know how the sites that are selling it are doing it, or what they're calling "scraping." Could be any of the methods I mentioned, or something I haven't thought of. Maybe the sites make the table chat available via RSS, for all I know. I still doubt that a database of action more than a few hours old would be useful, but I could be wrong. Aaron B. Available for small or large Perl jobs; see my home node.	[reply]

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Re^3: Poker Datamine
by aaron_baugher (Curate) on Oct 02, 2013 at 23:57 UTC

Well, as I said, it depends on how you're getting the data. If you're getting it in the browser with Javascript, then you might be able to save it to a local SQLite database, or connect to a server with Ajax and dump it into a database there. But a browser is limited for security reasons in what it can do on the local system and what servers it can contact other than the one already in the window. Perhaps there are ways around those limits; I don't know.

On the other hand, if you're getting the data by sniffing your network traffic or sticking some kind of proxy between client and server, then that program could save it to a database. If the poker client is standalone, not browser-based, that seems like the most likely method.

I don't have any resources to suggest, but I think you may want to try terms other than "scraping." Scraping normally means pulling web pages and mining data out of them one after another. You're not talking about web pages here; you might not be talking about the web at all. To scrape something, as I understand the term, you run a program that stands in for the client and grab what the server returns. That would be the ultimate way to run a bot -- have it connect in place of the official software -- but that's very unlikely to be possible. You need a way to run the poker software and get the chat stream that goes to it. Try doing your searches and adding "traffic sniff(ing|er)" and "proxy" to see if you find anything.

I don't know how the sites that are selling it are doing it, or what they're calling "scraping." Could be any of the methods I mentioned, or something I haven't thought of. Maybe the sites make the table chat available via RSS, for all I know. I still doubt that a database of action more than a few hours old would be useful, but I could be wrong.

Aaron B.
Available for small or large Perl jobs; see my home node.

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