$opsm, $mm and others are defined at the beginning of the program like this: my ($opsm, $mm, $sbm); I've since removed the If !Exists line and it still has no bearing...scratching my head here as the code is exactly like the previous menus. What should happen is once a Manifest has been added that window disappears which it does and the Manifest menu should reappear which it does not. If I try to call the Ops menu $opsm that works the $mm (Manifest Menu) does not iconify.